Infamous late-80s metal amps

[2ndhandband]

Re: Infamous late-80s metal amps

Ooohhh... anybody want some classic rackmount magic? There's an Engl E520 preamp on evilbay with the midi pac. The E520 was the precursor to the E530, but voiced differently. The E530 is your expected Engl scooped out modern metal whereas the E520 sounded like a really good plexi but with more gain. If my gear $$$ weren't already kinda spent for the next few months I'd snag it myself.

 

[Sirion]

Re: Infamous late-80s metal amps

Ooohhh... anybody want some classic rackmount magic? There's an Engl E520 preamp on evilbay with the midi pac. The E520 was the precursor to the E530, but voiced differently. The E530 is your expected Engl scooped out modern metal whereas the E520 sounded like a really good plexi but with more gain. If my gear $$$ weren't already kinda spent for the next few months I'd snag it myself.

Ahh, had this been 240v compatible I would seriously have considered it.

 

[Sirion]

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heh- my back hurts just reading about this old gear.

No pain no gain

One day I'll be happy to go to modelling equipment. That day is not today.

 

[Davii]

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The voodoo labs GCX that I use to switch preamps and handle my amp channel switching will do pedals and it's not really that hard to set up. That said I think the only place daisy chained pedals should be seen is a museum. The head situation is only temporary, until I find a reasonable replacement for my MP-2. I want another programmable preamp, but one that isn't such a dinosaur that parts are going to become a problem in the near future. The only one that really fits AND gets what I'm looking for sonically is the E580 and holy hell the used ones go for 2k...

With that sort of thing, I'm guessing you could have three preamps, dedicated to clean, crunch, lead, then throw in your fx unit via the midi. Looks like you have to have the associated floor pedal, and can't use a generic midi one?

 

[Sirion]

Re: Infamous late-80s metal amps

With that sort of thing, I'm guessing you could have three preamps, dedicated to clean, crunch, lead, then throw in your fx unit via the midi. Looks like you have to have the associated floor pedal, and can't use a generic midi one?

Really? I dunno, but wouldn't that pretty much defeat the purpose of midi? My guess would be that any more advanced MIDI pedal would be able to do it, at least.

 

[2ndhandband]

Re: Infamous late-80s metal amps

With that sort of thing, I'm guessing you could have three preamps, dedicated to clean, crunch, lead, then throw in your fx unit via the midi. Looks like you have to have the associated floor pedal, and can't use a generic midi one?

You mean my GCX? No, it's generic midi. My whole rig is controlled via my old lexicon mpx-r1. And yes I could just start stuffing the rack with a different preamp for each sound... in fact I've considered it.

 

[Davii]

Re: Infamous late-80s metal amps

Really? I dunno, but wouldn't that pretty much defeat the purpose of midi? My guess would be that any more advanced MIDI pedal would be able to do it, at least.

You could have preamps voice specifically for each role, is what I'm thinking. Midi is handy for the switching aspect, though mine can be a git to work with at times.

You mean my GCX? No, it's generic midi. My whole rig is controlled via my old lexicon mpx-r1. And yes I could just start stuffing the rack with a different preamp for each sound... in fact I've considered it.

I Googled it, and the pictures show the pedal port as being a specific one I'd thought?

 

[2ndhandband]

Re: Infamous late-80s metal amps

You could have preamps voice specifically for each role, is what I'm thinking. Midi is handy for the switching aspect, though mine can be a git to work with at times.



I Googled it, and the pictures show the pedal port as being a specific one I'd thought?

It's labeled pedal input on mine, but in fact it's a straight up midi port. That said VL makes a great midi controller and I might buy one as mine is getting old and cranky.

I'd never dream of going on without a midi rig. If I have to hit more than one button at a time i am going to trip on something.

 

[Sirion]

Re: Infamous late-80s metal amps

You could have preamps voice specifically for each role, is what I'm thinking. Midi is handy for the switching aspect, though mine can be a git to work with at times.

I was thinking in terms of needing one particular MIDI pedal to control it. If so there would be little reason to bother with MIDI, since interchangability might be the strongest suit of the system. Not that it matters, since we have since gotten an explanation from an owner of the product.

 

[Mincer]

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No pain no gain

One day I'll be happy to go to modelling equipment. That day is not today.

Haha, that's cool. I want to be able to walk in a straight line well into my old age.

 

[Davii]

Re: Infamous late-80s metal amps

I was thinking in terms of needing one particular MIDI pedal to control it. If so there would be little reason to bother with MIDI, since interchangability might be the strongest suit of the system. Not that it matters, since we have since gotten an explanation from an owner of the product.

Ah ok, I'd not cottoned on at the time

 

[metalchurch79]

Re: Infamous late-80s metal amps

Those Marshall 9100,9200,and EL34 100/100 are right around 70lbs so a 6-8-10 space rack can get extremely heavy. I had my 9200 (3rack space) in its own 4space rack figuring it would be easier, but I only ended up making another trip and it was a pain to stack and I was constantly worrying about that..

That's yet another reason why I'm looking at a Mesa 2:90 (warranty,weight, durability)

 

[Davii]

Re: Infamous late-80s metal amps

I initially used a 1u Behringer solid state jobbie, and that was 9kg, so size can be deceiving too. Admittedly, it was something ridiculous like 900W, so think most of that was heat sink

Balancing some of this stuff on top of a cab can be, er, fun too :-S

 

[metalchurch79]

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Yea it can get sketchy sometimes cause they get really top heavy and those small cab casters only add to the potential murder that's about to ensue.

 

[Sirion]

Re: Infamous late-80s metal amps

Those Marshall 9100,9200,and EL34 100/100 are right around 70lbs so a 6-8-10 space rack can get extremely heavy. I had my 9200 (3rack space) in its own 4space rack figuring it would be easier, but I only ended up making another trip and it was a pain to stack and I was constantly worrying about that..

That's yet another reason why I'm looking at a Mesa 2:90 (warranty,weight, durability)

I have a 9100 (originally 3U, set up as 4U to accommodate EL34 rather than 5881 tubes) and I love it, but I'm not really using it. It is heavy, and I find that the gain in tone from tube vs. solid state isn't worth the hassle for what I'm going for, at least when playing live.

How awesome it would have been to keep it in this Splawn rack, though!

 

[metalchurch79]

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I know of some other guys who did that mod to their 9100 and 9200's and they sound amazing. I ran mine without a top cover because I had Yellow Jackets and EL84's in my Side-B for a while.