Installed a treble bleed in a couple of my guitars.

[Diego]

Installed a 180pf capacitor (PRS method) as a basic treble bleed in my new Ibanez SZ and my Epi Les Paul.

The SZ already worked wonders without the TB, and the difference is subtle but noticeable. It cleans up wonderfully.
In the Les Paul it's not bright enough for me yet. I really want it to get twangy and defined when rolling back the volume, and it's better now but far from it.

I also bought the resistors and capacitors to do the Duncan and Kinman style mods, and I'll eventually try them in the Les Paul.
I recently tried a Tokai LP that had the best response to the volume pot I've ever experienced, rolling the volume back in the bridge pup sounded almost Tele-ish, like this clip of Bonamassa here when he does the "country" style bit at the end with a Gibson:

It's not just high-end, the midrange gets very punchy as well. Any idea on what treble bleed values could help with that?

 

[Hank-]

Re: Installed a treble bleed in a couple of my guitars.

A 1nF tb cap would get it plenty bright in an lp.

Add a 220k resistor in series to get the mids punchy

 

[Clint 55]

Re: Installed a treble bleed in a couple of my guitars.

220 or 330pf cap only works well.

 

[dystrust]

Re: Installed a treble bleed in a couple of my guitars.

I also bought the resistors and capacitors to do the Duncan and Kinman style mods, and I'll eventually try them in the Les Paul.
I recently tried a Tokai LP that had the best response to the volume pot I've ever experienced, rolling the volume back in the bridge pup sounded almost Tele-ish, like this clip of Bonamassa here when he does the "country" style bit at the end with a Gibson:


It's not just high-end, the midrange gets very punchy as well. Any idea on what treble bleed values could help with that?

There's a decent chance that Joe's LP has 50s style wiring, which is a different sound. A treble bleed will keep tone bright as you roll down the volume, but it won't do the midrange / resonance thing the way that 50s wiring does.

 

[Diego]

Re: Installed a treble bleed in a couple of my guitars.

There's a decent chance that Joe's LP has 50s style wiring, which is a different sound. A treble bleed will keep tone bright as you roll down the volume, but it won't do the midrange / resonance thing the way that 50s wiring does.

I thought of that after writing this thread. It's quite possible actually and sadly I'm not sure I can rewire it, my Epiphone comes with the quick connect system and I'm not sure it can be redone without gutting it. And I don't wanna.
I'll find out.

 

[ehdwuld]

Re: Installed a treble bleed in a couple of my guitars.

I gutted my Epi and put in push push pots
Not so much gutted but did remove the remove the plug ends on the pickup wires

If you wanna leave it you can do the TB right on the volume pots
And the 50s wiring just move the cap leg to the volume pot

Either one wouldn't necessarily require irreversible changes

 

[KeeperOS]

Re: Installed a treble bleed in a couple of my guitars.

I've been using a treble bleed in all my guitars for about 15 years now and I cannot really understand how this doesn't come stock in everything.
It's cheap as all heck and unless you always run the volume at 10, this mod helps a great deal in retaining those highs while as an extra bonus, it helps with cleaning up the gain when you roll the volume down...

The values I have used with great results are a .001μF cap and a 150K resistor wired in parallel in the two volume pot lugs.

With the 500K Audio pots I normally use it works really well.