Local hock shop has a Jackson Professional series guitar (I think the model is a PS4 (?) and they are asking $290. That too much? Its in pretty good shape body and neck wise. there is a pup height screw missing (no biggie), but.. The one big issue is there is no place to mount the trem arm. There is an open hole where the mount should be on the Floyd copy. can that piece be replaced, or would we be looking at a floyd replacement?
Jackson Pro series
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alteredbeast
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Re: Jackson Pro series
how did it feel open hole in floyd aside? i'm thinking you can replace something like that.
how did it feel open hole in floyd aside? i'm thinking you can replace something like that.
dominus
King Midas to Cheap Guitars
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If the hole is unthreaded, you just need to buy a new arm and make sure that it includes the insert. You can get them from Stew-Mac:
http://www.stewmac.com/shop/Bridges..._Tremolo_Arms.html?actn=100101&xst=3&xsr=1208
2114-B For Double-Locking Tremolo, black.
That one has an allen screw and sleeve that attach from the bottom.
If the hole is threaded, you may need to get an arm with a threaded insert. The one from Stew-Mac *might* work if the hole is the same size.
PM sent.
If the hole is unthreaded, you just need to buy a new arm and make sure that it includes the insert. You can get them from Stew-Mac:
http://www.stewmac.com/shop/Bridges..._Tremolo_Arms.html?actn=100101&xst=3&xsr=1208
2114-B For Double-Locking Tremolo, black.
That one has an allen screw and sleeve that attach from the bottom.
If the hole is threaded, you may need to get an arm with a threaded insert. The one from Stew-Mac *might* work if the hole is the same size.
PM sent.
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sixstringsamurai333
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If it's PS4 it's the Performer Series, which was the one below the Pro Series back in the day.
If it's PS4 it's the Performer Series, which was the one below the Pro Series back in the day.
Zerberus
Baron Von Shred
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Absolutely correct, the Performers were essentially the successors to the Concept Series.
The first year when they were MIJ they were pretty decent guitars. Then the production was moved to korea, and they instantly took a nosedive. Misplaced bridges, cheese grater frets, finishing issues... seemed like everything just went to hell in a handbasket, and they were axed a year or so later.
The hardware is low end but functional, the pickups are so-so, hoowever the Floyd can be replaced with a Schaller with zero modification (the JT-500 is itself a Schaller clone)- OFRs /Gotohs /Edges will run into both clearance and intonation issues due to the shorter baseplate and longer saddle screws.
As far as the arm goes: just like with a Schaller, standard 15$ OFR arm/collar systems are a drop in replacement.
Is it worth 290$? Yes and no. They were originally around 5-600$ IIRC, but they´re still just a lower midrange import. If it really sings and has the characteristics /quality of a japanese one, I might go as high as 200$.... But remember in that valuation that I generally adhere to the mantra of "save up any buy something awesome", I can see someone paying 250-300 for it if it´s in good shape.
*Edit Hours later* If however it says "Professional" on the headstock, then It´s quite likely worth the 290 depending on which exact model it happens to be. Exact specs or a pic will help....
Absolutely correct, the Performers were essentially the successors to the Concept Series.
The first year when they were MIJ they were pretty decent guitars. Then the production was moved to korea, and they instantly took a nosedive. Misplaced bridges, cheese grater frets, finishing issues... seemed like everything just went to hell in a handbasket, and they were axed a year or so later.
The hardware is low end but functional, the pickups are so-so, hoowever the Floyd can be replaced with a Schaller with zero modification (the JT-500 is itself a Schaller clone)- OFRs /Gotohs /Edges will run into both clearance and intonation issues due to the shorter baseplate and longer saddle screws.
As far as the arm goes: just like with a Schaller, standard 15$ OFR arm/collar systems are a drop in replacement.
Is it worth 290$? Yes and no. They were originally around 5-600$ IIRC, but they´re still just a lower midrange import. If it really sings and has the characteristics /quality of a japanese one, I might go as high as 200$.... But remember in that valuation that I generally adhere to the mantra of "save up any buy something awesome", I can see someone paying 250-300 for it if it´s in good shape.
*Edit Hours later* If however it says "Professional" on the headstock, then It´s quite likely worth the 290 depending on which exact model it happens to be. Exact specs or a pic will help....
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Ball&Chain
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You can buy the trem arm with the threaded piece. I had the same situation with a 90's performer jackson I bought from ebay several years back. As far as value, I bought that one for about 180 bucks. I would offer a bit less than the 290.
You can buy the trem arm with the threaded piece. I had the same situation with a 90's performer jackson I bought from ebay several years back. As far as value, I bought that one for about 180 bucks. I would offer a bit less than the 290.
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It does say professional on the headstock. I did not see any sticker of origin tho. I was looking for made in ...
It does say professional on the headstock. I did not see any sticker of origin tho. I was looking for made in ...
Zerberus
Baron Von Shred
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Professionals are always MIJ, which ist in itself good. There´s quite a broad spay between what would today be a 600$ import all teh way up to the high end which are on par with the USA Jacksons in every way. But just about any Professional should be worth 250+ in decent clip.
Unless of course it´s a parts mutt....
Professionals are always MIJ, which ist in itself good. There´s quite a broad spay between what would today be a 600$ import all teh way up to the high end which are on par with the USA Jacksons in every way. But just about any Professional should be worth 250+ in decent clip.
Unless of course it´s a parts mutt....
verbotenco
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It is the successor to the Professional series to be exact.
It is the successor to the Professional series to be exact.
Zerberus
Baron Von Shred
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No, it is not, and never was. If that´s not clear from fact that the performers were discontinued and the korean plant closed down because of it in 1999, while the professionals are still made TO THIS DAY by the same people at the japanese Chinsu-Gakki plant that have been producing Jackson/Charvel guitars since 1986, I don´t know what could clarify it. I´ve never seen a "successor" that never took the place of it´s predecessor and died before him to to boot....
Pick up a copy of the 1995 Jackson Catalog, and you shall see that the Professional and Performer series were available simultaneously. In the 1999 catalog, both lines were still available, and in 2000 the Performers were gone but the Professionals were still there (and BTW they still are TODAY.) ... Btw the ´99 catalog still has a japanese performer in it, which can be discerned by the 12th fret dots.
A look at the dealer price lists from the era also shows discrepancies in the range of multiple hundred dollars....
Looking at the features, cheap jackson designed PUs on the Performers, bottom of the barrel JT-500 trem, available in 3 colors, and then the specs of a typical Professional (DD or real Duncan pus, JT580LP takeuchi made tremolo, usually available in multiple colors) further hints that these are not the same line...
And all of this is actually completely irrelevant because I was factually both a dealer and an endorsee during that timeframe and "watched" the transition from Concept to Performer firsthand over a period of 6 months
*Edit2* Unfortunately, I can´t find PLs from 99-2005 online, but here are the `94 (Pro and Concept), `95 (Pro + Performer), `98 (Pro + Performer) and 2006 Winter( only Pro left) Dealer Price lists...
http://support.jacksonguitars.com/pricelists/us/JacksonCharvel1994_Pricelist.pdf
http://support.jacksonguitars.com/pricelists/us/JacksonCharvel1995_Pricelist.pdf
http://support.jacksonguitars.com/pricelists/us/JacksonCharvel1998_Pricelist.pdf
http://support.jacksonguitars.com/pricelists/us/Jackson_Winter2006_Pricelist_b&w.pdf
As far as today goes, the Jackson Student line still exists at the same price and quality point, as does the USA select Series. What has changed is the makeup of the midrange imports, which went though a time with the MG, X, and Pro series running parallel and is now consolidated into the "X series". SO one could say the X series is the successor to both the Professional series and the Concept /Performer /MG series
No, it is not, and never was. If that´s not clear from fact that the performers were discontinued and the korean plant closed down because of it in 1999, while the professionals are still made TO THIS DAY by the same people at the japanese Chinsu-Gakki plant that have been producing Jackson/Charvel guitars since 1986, I don´t know what could clarify it. I´ve never seen a "successor" that never took the place of it´s predecessor and died before him to to boot....
Pick up a copy of the 1995 Jackson Catalog, and you shall see that the Professional and Performer series were available simultaneously. In the 1999 catalog, both lines were still available, and in 2000 the Performers were gone but the Professionals were still there (and BTW they still are TODAY.) ... Btw the ´99 catalog still has a japanese performer in it, which can be discerned by the 12th fret dots.
A look at the dealer price lists from the era also shows discrepancies in the range of multiple hundred dollars....
Looking at the features, cheap jackson designed PUs on the Performers, bottom of the barrel JT-500 trem, available in 3 colors, and then the specs of a typical Professional (DD or real Duncan pus, JT580LP takeuchi made tremolo, usually available in multiple colors) further hints that these are not the same line...
And all of this is actually completely irrelevant because I was factually both a dealer and an endorsee during that timeframe and "watched" the transition from Concept to Performer firsthand over a period of 6 months
*Edit2* Unfortunately, I can´t find PLs from 99-2005 online, but here are the `94 (Pro and Concept), `95 (Pro + Performer), `98 (Pro + Performer) and 2006 Winter( only Pro left) Dealer Price lists...
http://support.jacksonguitars.com/pricelists/us/JacksonCharvel1994_Pricelist.pdf
http://support.jacksonguitars.com/pricelists/us/JacksonCharvel1995_Pricelist.pdf
http://support.jacksonguitars.com/pricelists/us/JacksonCharvel1998_Pricelist.pdf
http://support.jacksonguitars.com/pricelists/us/Jackson_Winter2006_Pricelist_b&w.pdf
As far as today goes, the Jackson Student line still exists at the same price and quality point, as does the USA select Series. What has changed is the makeup of the midrange imports, which went though a time with the MG, X, and Pro series running parallel and is now consolidated into the "X series". SO one could say the X series is the successor to both the Professional series and the Concept /Performer /MG series
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Mosher Zone
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^^ Wow, you know your Jackson's. I had a Concept JDR 94 when they came out & still wish i had kept it, my band mate recently picked one up & i put a Duncan Custom in it for him & it's a really great guitar. $290 sounds pretty good to me for that guitar. :1:
^^ Wow, you know your Jackson's. I had a Concept JDR 94 when they came out & still wish i had kept it, my band mate recently picked one up & i put a Duncan Custom in it for him & it's a really great guitar. $290 sounds pretty good to me for that guitar. :1:
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Actually Zerb, there are no more Jacksons coming out of Japan any more. It was shut down at the end of 2011. Sad day. Now imports are made in India, Indonesia, or China (mostly Charvels). You need to hang out on the JCF more often.
Sad day, but at least I'm well stocked up on MIJ Jacksons.
Actually Zerb, there are no more Jacksons coming out of Japan any more. It was shut down at the end of 2011. Sad day. Now imports are made in India, Indonesia, or China (mostly Charvels). You need to hang out on the JCF more often.
Sad day, but at least I'm well stocked up on MIJ Jacksons.
Zerberus
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WHAAT?!?!?! No, really? I seriously did not catch that and am much dismayed by it. Totally shut down as in Jackson Stars is also dead or just removed from the international product line? I fear the former is more likely... 0.o
Do you know by any chance where the X series 7 string soloists are getting pumped out of? Until 30 seconds ago I assumed Japan.... we all know what an MIC sticker does to my product interest
Actually, you got lucky. I normally don´t do imports, but the 1990-1995 product line had the top end coming from both the us and Japan discernible only by serial number and headstock marking, and I was a dealer from `94-`98, so you just happened into the butter zone of my import knowledge
WHAAT?!?!?! No, really? I seriously did not catch that and am much dismayed by it. Totally shut down as in Jackson Stars is also dead or just removed from the international product line? I fear the former is more likely... 0.o
Do you know by any chance where the X series 7 string soloists are getting pumped out of? Until 30 seconds ago I assumed Japan.... we all know what an MIC sticker does to my product interest
Actually, you got lucky. I normally don´t do imports, but the 1990-1995 product line had the top end coming from both the us and Japan discernible only by serial number and headstock marking, and I was a dealer from `94-`98, so you just happened into the butter zone of my import knowledge
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Not sure if Stars are dead also, but all production of Pro Mods, Professionals, the good stuff is gone out of Japan. Some said it was because of the quake, while others said because of the currency exchange rate they weren't making a profit in Japan so they simply shut down.
Not sure if Stars are dead also, but all production of Pro Mods, Professionals, the good stuff is gone out of Japan. Some said it was because of the quake, while others said because of the currency exchange rate they weren't making a profit in Japan so they simply shut down.
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this really suprises me that you didnt know this Zerb. You are usally completely on the pulse of all things Jackson.. Yeah, this is why the stopped production of the Pro mod line.
They went from US to Japan, (Im sure to save money) and then stopped making them. VERY sad as they were awesome!!
this really suprises me that you didnt know this Zerb. You are usally completely on the pulse of all things Jackson.. Yeah, this is why the stopped production of the Pro mod line.
They went from US to Japan, (Im sure to save money) and then stopped making them. VERY sad as they were awesome!!
Bezmotivnik
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This of course was not limited to Jackson/Charvel. All the Fender brands with the exception of Gretsch pulled the plug on Japanese production as far as I know, and FMIC hasn't given a consistent reason why. What information I've read is conflicting.
This of course was not limited to Jackson/Charvel. All the Fender brands with the exception of Gretsch pulled the plug on Japanese production as far as I know, and FMIC hasn't given a consistent reason why. What information I've read is conflicting.
