Jazz Bridge in the neck? (or a meatier Jazz neck)

[Inge Malmstein]

Some guys here are using a 59bridge in the neck.
Waht about a Jazz bridge in the neck position?
I like the Jazz neck for a single-coil-voicing sound and its sweetness.
I tried a 59N before but it's too bassy in the guitar (explorer), i also tried a 59Bridge and a SCreamin Demon - they are a bit too much.
Sometimes i wish the Jazz neck to sound a bit rounder - could this be the bridge model?
I know that a lot here swear on the Jazz neck (including me!), but i i don't hear so lot about the Jazz bridge, or the jazz bridge in the neck...
I want to buy a new Jazz Pickup (i sold mine a few time ago, but i miss it!), so i think about the Jazz bridge...
What are your thoughts?
Maybe another pickup? SH-10N? Pearly Gates N?

 

[Stevo]

Re: Jazz Bridge in the neck? (or a meatier Jazz neck)

That sounds like a darn good idea Inge. Seriously, I like the jazz neck, but I wish it was a little more 59-ish.. you may be on to something here. I think I need to try this

 

[Inge Malmstein]

Re: Jazz Bridge in the neck? (or a meatier Jazz neck)

Do you already have a Jazz Bridge?
Like to read your impression(s) before i order one Jazz Humbucker.
The problem is that i can't return the pickup, i'll order it in USA (with a TB-5) but it will be delivered to Germany!
Of course i could sell it on ebay, but i actually have put 9! pickups for sale on ebay!

 

[korovamilkdud]

Re: Jazz Bridge in the neck? (or a meatier Jazz neck)

I used to own an aph-1B I sold to wasteofo2, it was fatter sounding than the one I have now.

but the old one reated 8.2K, and mine now reads 7.4k. The old one seemed hotter and fatter. But a tad muddy. The new one actually seems smidge thin, but plenty clean and clear.

If I could find one at about 7.8k - 7.9k I'd be set!

 

[JOLLY]

Re: Jazz Bridge in the neck? (or a meatier Jazz neck)

I've been meaning to try this for quite awhile. I have 6 brand new bridge Jazz Models lying around that I've been meaning to use for this exact purpose.

 

[JOLLY]

Re: Jazz Bridge in the neck? (or a meatier Jazz neck)

6 of them...... why 6?

why not?

'Cause the Jazz Model is my favorite bridge pickup and I got a good deal on them brand new a couple of years back.

 

[Lewguitar]

Re: Jazz Bridge in the neck? (or a meatier Jazz neck)

That sounds like a darn good idea Inge. Seriously, I like the jazz neck, but I wish it was a little more 59-ish.. you may be on to something here. I think I need to try this

I think the Jazz neck that is a little more 59-ish is called the 59N! :laugh2: Seriously, they are so similar to me.

The Jazz neck sounds like a 59N with less bass and more sparkle and upper harmonics.

The 59N sounds like a Jazz neck with more bass and less sparkle and upper harmonics. :laugh2:

Lew

 

[Inge Malmstein]

Re: Jazz Bridge in the neck? (or a meatier Jazz neck)

I think the Jazz neck that is a little more 59-ish is called the 59N! :laugh2: Seriously, they are so similar to me.

The Jazz neck sounds like a 59N with less bass and more sparkle and upper harmonics.

The 59N sounds like a Jazz neck with more bass and less sparkle and upper harmonics. :laugh2:

Lew

Yes, but the descriptions of the differences between 59N and JazzN sound the same like the difference between the JazzBridge and Jazzneck.
59N Resonant Peak: 6.8 khz
jazz bridge 7.0 khz

If a bridge has more output than the Neck pickup, and the 59 has slightly more output than the Jazz, would a JazzB be close to the 59N?

I noticed that JazzN and 59N had almost the same tone, except that the Jazz neck has those high frequencies, which the 59N does cut.
I tried a 59/JB combo on the explorer, but wasn't satiesfied.
The 59 was a bit too bassy.
I tried on another giutar and liked it.
Then i had a Jazz N and liked it, but sometimes i'd like to have it rounder.
But if my theory is right, then i will "return" to the jazzN. What a shame that i gave it away!
Just would like to hear your thoughts about a JazzB as a neck pickp.

 

[Lewguitar]

Re: Jazz Bridge in the neck? (or a meatier Jazz neck)

You want a pickup that is between the Jazz N and 59N.

I don't think there is one...not in alnico 5.

Have you tried a Pearly Gates neck?

 

[Inge Malmstein]

Re: Jazz Bridge in the neck? (or a meatier Jazz neck)

No, but i have also thought about it.
I have a APH-II, it's sweet, but too dark in the Gibson.
But, if i look at the specs of the PG it might be a bright pickup...
Would you say it's also single-coil-like voiced like a Jazz and round like a 59?

 

[Stevo]

Re: Jazz Bridge in the neck? (or a meatier Jazz neck)

Has anyone tried a PGn with an a5?

 

[Stevo]

Re: Jazz Bridge in the neck? (or a meatier Jazz neck)

I definitely notice a difference between the jazz neck and the 59n. I'd like to have a neck humbucker with more life than the jazz, but less bass than the 59n.

 

[Marcel]

Re: Jazz Bridge in the neck? (or a meatier Jazz neck)

6 of them...... why 6?

that was my first question too!

 

[Inge Malmstein]

Re: Jazz Bridge in the neck? (or a meatier Jazz neck)

I definitely notice a difference between the jazz neck and the 59n. I'd like to have a neck humbucker with more life than the jazz, but less bass than the 59n.

Maybe a Jazz/59 Hybrid?!?

 

[MattPete]

Re: Jazz Bridge in the neck? (or a meatier Jazz neck)

Has anyone tried a PGn with an a5?

Yep, that's what I have in my Warmoth VIP. The PGn sounds great, but was not what I was looking for in that guitar. I wanted more of a hollow, wood sound, and a switch to an A5 gave me that. I also tried an A3, but it sounded like the stock A2 PGn.

My only gripe with the A5 PGn, is that sometimes I wish it had a little more beef -- a little more midrange. I'm thinking about buying a Jazz neck and seeing if that does the trick.

From listening to the sound clips, I think the PGn and the Jazz Neck will sound very similar. The Jazz has more resistance (and doesn't have unbalanced coils), so I'm hoping that it will sound beefier.

 

[Lewguitar]

Re: Jazz Bridge in the neck? (or a meatier Jazz neck)

No, but i have also thought about it.
I have a APH-II, it's sweet, but too dark in the Gibson.
But, if i look at the specs of the PG it might be a bright pickup...
Would you say it's also single-coil-like voiced like a Jazz and round like a 59?

I think you'd like the PGn. I think it's similar but has a little more edge than the AIIPro. IMO, that's the one you should at least give a try to: the PGn.

You can always use the 21 day exchange if you need to but you'll never know what it sounds like until you try it.

I don't think there's a better neck pickup in a Les Paul than the PGn.

 

[Fusion1]

Re: Jazz Bridge in the neck? (or a meatier Jazz neck)

I really and I mean really like the sound of the Pearly Gates (b) in the neck pos. of my Agile Les Paul DC2500. Gives it more beef than a 59 or Jazz IMO, but I never actually tried the "normal" Pearly Gates in the neck pos. so YMMV.

I think the Jazz (b) might be worth a shot. I actually have a Jazz (b) to test this out in the neck soon. Stay tuned!

 

[Lewguitar]

Re: Jazz Bridge in the neck? (or a meatier Jazz neck)

Here's the thing: Alnico 5 neck humbuckers like the Jazz and 59N have a great tone but if you're trying to find a neck pickup with less bass you need to move to alnico 2.

IMO, the choices there are: Antiquity, Seth Lover, AII Pro or Pearly Gates.

If you want a covered picku then the choice is between the the Ant or Seth Lover.

If you want an uncovered pickup in zebra or black then the choice is between the AIIPro and PG.

If a guy has already tried the AIIPro and likes it, but finds it just a little "dark in a Gibson" then the PGN is the logical next pickup to try.

I've measured the coils on PG's: one coil is slightly hotter than the other and that allows that one coil to dominate a little over the other and give the pickup just a little more treble and opens up the mids a little so they don't sound to dense and buttery and mask the treble.

 

[Stevo]

Re: Jazz Bridge in the neck? (or a meatier Jazz neck)

My only gripe with the A5 PGn, is that sometimes I wish it had a little more beef -- a little more midrange. I'm thinking about buying a Jazz neck and seeing if that does the trick.

I feel the same way about the jazz neck. The bass is very tight, but I want it to have more sensetivity like the 59n.

I like the warmth and the smooth character of the a2 neck pickups, but I always seem to want more glass and sensetivity out of them.

Jessica from SD has an overwound jazz in her paul neck position. I played her guitar through my plexi and the bass was very tight, as it is on a regular jazz pickup, but it seemed to have more color.

 

[Inge Malmstein]

Re: Jazz Bridge in the neck? (or a meatier Jazz neck)

Here's the thing: Alnico 5 neck humbuckers like the Jazz and 59N have a great tone but if you're trying to find a neck pickup with less bass you need to move to alnico 2.

IMO, the choices there are: Antiquity, Seth Lover, AII Pro or Pearly Gates.

If you want a covered picku then the choice is between the the Ant or Seth Lover.

If you want an uncovered pickup in zebra or black then the choice is between the AIIPro and PG.

If a guy has already tried the AIIPro and likes it, but finds it just a little "dark in a Gibson" then the PGN is the logical next pickup to try.

I've measured the coils on PG's: one coil is slightly hotter than the other and that allows that one coil to dominate a little over the other and give the pickup just a little more treble and opens up the mids a little so they don't sound to dense and buttery and mask the treble.

It might be worth a try.
I like the Jazz for its definition and sweetness. It doesn't have too much bass.
I just would like to keep this and have a bit more meat - sometimes.
What about putting an A-5 in it?
I use the '59 with a CC in a strat and the 59 could be a bit smoother. So i could put the A-II in the 59 and vice versa.

ou can always use the 21 day exchange if you need to but you'll never know what it sounds like until you try it.

That's a problem if i order it in USA from here in Germany.
Otherwise I'm a "bedroom-player" and never satisfied. (I have dozens of pickups which i'm gonna sell actually. Especially the DiMarzio#s didn't satisfied me ;-) )
So i don't have the possibility to "test" them at high volume on stage, where they maybe would have a sound which satisfies me.