I finally replaced the gibson classic in my 2012 les paul traditional today with a jazz neck. So far i like it better but it has just a bit to much bass on the lower strings. I have adjusted height and screws to a good compromise i can live with. Does the pearly gates neck have less bass than the jazz? That is the other option I weighed before buying the jazz.
jazz neck vs pearly gates neck
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blueman335
Mojo's Minions
Re: jazz neck vs pearly gates neck
The low end on PGN's isn't as tight (A2's have a looser low end). They also have a lot less treble than a Jazz. Are you wanting that too?
The low end on PGN's isn't as tight (A2's have a looser low end). They also have a lot less treble than a Jazz. Are you wanting that too?
Re: jazz neck vs pearly gates neck
I don't want less highs. Im just trying to get rid of the compressed bass. I am liking the jazz but it could use less bass on the wound strings. If i lower it too far to balance the bridge custom, it loses focus. I love the split sound of the jazz and would like something similar in full humbucker mode. This is my first day with it and am considering exchanging. I would try the full shred neck if not for the pole pieces.
I don't want less highs. Im just trying to get rid of the compressed bass. I am liking the jazz but it could use less bass on the wound strings. If i lower it too far to balance the bridge custom, it loses focus. I love the split sound of the jazz and would like something similar in full humbucker mode. This is my first day with it and am considering exchanging. I would try the full shred neck if not for the pole pieces.
Chickenwings
Alnico 6/8
Re: jazz neck vs pearly gates neck
whats your amp and how do you set the low end?
Do you turn the low end down and turn up the treble to compensate for how tube amps behave differently when the power tubes are cooking?
whats your amp and how do you set the low end?
Do you turn the low end down and turn up the treble to compensate for how tube amps behave differently when the power tubes are cooking?
Snake Aces
Singlecut Slut
Re: jazz neck vs pearly gates neck
I have found the Jazz to have the least amount of bass of any neck humbucker I've ever used. I would look elsewhere besides the pickup to solve your problem because the Jazz definitely does not have too much bass if you have it installed correctly using the correct pots, cap and height settings.
I have found the Jazz to have the least amount of bass of any neck humbucker I've ever used. I would look elsewhere besides the pickup to solve your problem because the Jazz definitely does not have too much bass if you have it installed correctly using the correct pots, cap and height settings.
Re: jazz neck vs pearly gates neck
Yeah, I agree, I have both neck pickups in 2 different but identical guitars, and the Jazz is the least bassy of them all.
Something else must be causing it, but otherwise I would raise the poles on the 3 bass strings at least 1 turn, then lower the bass side of the pickup 1 turn, this lessens the bass
Yeah, I agree, I have both neck pickups in 2 different but identical guitars, and the Jazz is the least bassy of them all.
Something else must be causing it, but otherwise I would raise the poles on the 3 bass strings at least 1 turn, then lower the bass side of the pickup 1 turn, this lessens the bass
Re: jazz neck vs pearly gates neck
My amp is a jvm 205 through a splawn 2x12. On the clean and dirty channels, I run the bass around 3, mids 4, and treble at 6 or 7. I have rewired the guitar using 550k volume and tone controls with .22 caps. These came from a jonsey blues kit. I have set up the amp to get a good sound from the neck. My other guitars aren't as picky as the Paul in the neck.
My amp is a jvm 205 through a splawn 2x12. On the clean and dirty channels, I run the bass around 3, mids 4, and treble at 6 or 7. I have rewired the guitar using 550k volume and tone controls with .22 caps. These came from a jonsey blues kit. I have set up the amp to get a good sound from the neck. My other guitars aren't as picky as the Paul in the neck.
blueman335
Mojo's Minions
Re: jazz neck vs pearly gates neck
In my experience, LP's usually have more low end than any other guitar design I've owned. The tone of your wood may be a little bassier too.
I used to insist on A5 neck PU's for the sharper high-end, but the trade off is that you get more bass too. I've since switched to mostly A2 and UOA5 neck PU's for their richer texture, and wire them for spin-a-split to thin out the mids and add treble.
In my experience, LP's usually have more low end than any other guitar design I've owned. The tone of your wood may be a little bassier too.
I used to insist on A5 neck PU's for the sharper high-end, but the trade off is that you get more bass too. I've since switched to mostly A2 and UOA5 neck PU's for their richer texture, and wire them for spin-a-split to thin out the mids and add treble.
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Snake Aces
Singlecut Slut
Re: jazz neck vs pearly gates neck
I would agree with this but for some reason the Alnico II Pro has tons of bass and the Jazz does not. Same wind, different mags. It's the exception to the rule!
I would agree with this but for some reason the Alnico II Pro has tons of bass and the Jazz does not. Same wind, different mags. It's the exception to the rule!
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It is strange that an a2 would have more bass. I have changed magnets in my 59 and made a few custom 59 hybrids and found the a2 only mellowed the tone a bit. The Jazz dominates the tone when bridge and neck are used together so I might wire the Jazz out of phase with the custom and put the screw coil towards the bridge. How does a uoa5 compare to a regular a5?
It is strange that an a2 would have more bass. I have changed magnets in my 59 and made a few custom 59 hybrids and found the a2 only mellowed the tone a bit. The Jazz dominates the tone when bridge and neck are used together so I might wire the Jazz out of phase with the custom and put the screw coil towards the bridge. How does a uoa5 compare to a regular a5?
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With an uoA5, you'd have less defined bass, less treble, and more dynamics for the most part. While your'e swapping though, it is worth it to get an A2 and see if that strong bass is still there (for a few bucks). The A2's bass is there, but it is looser and not as defined. It is more low mid squishiness than tight bass.
With an uoA5, you'd have less defined bass, less treble, and more dynamics for the most part. While your'e swapping though, it is worth it to get an A2 and see if that strong bass is still there (for a few bucks). The A2's bass is there, but it is looser and not as defined. It is more low mid squishiness than tight bass.
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blueman335
Mojo's Minions
Re: jazz neck vs pearly gates neck
An UOA5 has less bass than a regular A5. Other than that, I agree with the rest of the post.
UOA5's are in between an A2 and A5 tonewise, favoring the A2 side of things. They have less mids than an A2, along with a little more high-end. Ideal for when an A2 is too middy or too warm. I just got a guitar that came with a Jazz set, and put an A2 in the bridge (instant A2P!) and an UOA5 in the neck for a little more treble and clarity. They sound great. Neither one is bassy.
An UOA5 has less bass than a regular A5. Other than that, I agree with the rest of the post.
UOA5's are in between an A2 and A5 tonewise, favoring the A2 side of things. They have less mids than an A2, along with a little more high-end. Ideal for when an A2 is too middy or too warm. I just got a guitar that came with a Jazz set, and put an A2 in the bridge (instant A2P!) and an UOA5 in the neck for a little more treble and clarity. They sound great. Neither one is bassy.
fab.regnaut
New member
Re: jazz neck vs pearly gates neck
Yes the full shred neck will have less bass than the jazz , and a bit less treebles too .
If you want to add more treebles to the FSn you can swap the hex screws on the treeble coil for fillister , on the three treeble strings only cause it add bass as well
( hex screws focus the sound on the mids )
Yes the full shred neck will have less bass than the jazz , and a bit less treebles too .
If you want to add more treebles to the FSn you can swap the hex screws on the treeble coil for fillister , on the three treeble strings only cause it add bass as well
( hex screws focus the sound on the mids )
blueman335
Mojo's Minions
Re: jazz neck vs pearly gates neck
+1. The mids give it a bigger sound. A3's are also unoriented, so they have some vintage feel. Although I haven't used it in the bridge slot yet, I will at some point.
+1. The mids give it a bigger sound. A3's are also unoriented, so they have some vintage feel. Although I haven't used it in the bridge slot yet, I will at some point.
Re: jazz neck vs pearly gates neck
Actually you are right! I am correcting my post. The bass on a uoA5 is less defined.
Actually you are right! I am correcting my post. The bass on a uoA5 is less defined.
blueman335
Mojo's Minions
Re: jazz neck vs pearly gates neck
Right, the unoriented aspect reduces the bass and makes it looser. One of the reasons UOA5's sound a lot closer to A2's than A5's.
Right, the unoriented aspect reduces the bass and makes it looser. One of the reasons UOA5's sound a lot closer to A2's than A5's.
blueman335
Mojo's Minions
Re: jazz neck vs pearly gates neck
It seems like the rough surface may create a less structured magnetic field; don't know if it actually does or not. Forum member Zhang, who winds and sells PU's, said that almost all of his bridge HB's have roughcast magnets, as they make the high-end 'smoother.' I've done the same to most of mine (i.e. swapping out a polished A2 for a roughcast one). I prefer polished mags in the neck slot for the sharper high-end.
It seems like the rough surface may create a less structured magnetic field; don't know if it actually does or not. Forum member Zhang, who winds and sells PU's, said that almost all of his bridge HB's have roughcast magnets, as they make the high-end 'smoother.' I've done the same to most of mine (i.e. swapping out a polished A2 for a roughcast one). I prefer polished mags in the neck slot for the sharper high-end.