JB and Jazz Installation in Epiphone Les Paul Tribute?

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I'm having some issues with installing my hot rodded set of humbuckers from seymour duncan into my 2010 Epiphone Les Paul tribute. The colors of the wires on my current humbuckers (gibson '57s) are completely different than what is depicted in the diagrams in the instructions that came with my humbuckers so don't really know where to start desoldering or how to connect my new pickups. Any ideas?
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Re: JB and Jazz Installation in Epiphone Les Paul Tribute?

Seems that most PU manufacturers use different color codes, don't know why they can't standardize them. Duncan color codes are black = hot, green = ground, and red and white are paired.

So you're aware, JB's sometimes don't get along with warm woods like mahogany. Been reading first hand accounts here for 12 years of members who've had unpleasant results. They can work well in mahogany, but seem to have a higher failure rate than any other pickup. If you don't like how yours sounds, return it for something else. You won't be the first. Regardless, don't expect PU's to sound the same in a LP as they do in a Strat.
 
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Use the diagram that came with the pickups- don't go back to Gibson's colors. This is an example where it would be great to have some standards. Every pickup company seems to have a different version.
 
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If you are just swapping pickups, then trace your hots to the pot terminals and swap. The grounds are soldered to the back of the pots. Everything else stays the same
 
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Start by desoldering every wire from the stock pickups that connects to anything else. You don't need too notate which colored Epi pickup wires went where. Just pull the pickups.

Epiphone and Seymour Duncan color codes are not the same, so forget about matching their colors to Duncan's colors.

You should solder the new pickups in based on a Duncan wiring diagram that offers the same exact push-pull features, not based on where the Epi wires went.
 
Re: JB and Jazz Installation in Epiphone Les Paul Tribute?

Wire the bare and green of the Duncans to the back of the pots, the black to the lugs on the volume pots, and red and white soldered together and taped off.
 
Re: JB and Jazz Installation in Epiphone Les Paul Tribute?

Dont be discouraged by bluesman. I guess I was one of the"lucky" ones, I love my JB.

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Re: JB and Jazz Installation in Epiphone Les Paul Tribute?

Hello All,

This is my first post - just joined the forum after putting SD Alnico II Pro Slash pups in my Epiphone LP Standard, and was shocked at the complete transformation in sound that I got over stock pups through my amp even in clean mode and with reverb off. Instantly addicted to hot-rodding now - I have a JB/Jazz combo about to go into a Vintage VRS100...

Anyway - to try and answer this question. I'm a detail freak, so I like to know why I'm doing stuff. I don't just take pictures of internals, I draw a wiring diagram as well, and I study the SD wiring articles carefully.

With the best will in the world, your pictures aren't very good :) - which is why I guess the other posters haven't mentioned anything about them...

Looking at the pictures, it looks to me like from the third picture, you have a black hot wire, and green/white are joining the coils for your neck pickup. You haven't moved the lead for the bridge pickup so that the pictures can capture anything useful, it's hidden behind the tone pot.

So, as stated, you could follow the article in https://www.seymourduncan.com/blog/the-tone-garage/guitar-wiring-explored-humbucker-internals, join your red and white, and use black as your hot wire. There are 5 wires in a humbucker prepared for coil splitting - 2 to ground, 2 to join the coils, and 1 hot output. You know enough now to join your red and white on the new pickups, and solder them to the point where green/white are currently soldered, replace the old black with the new black, and replace your other two (they are joined to the big blue wire) with the new green and bare. That should give you a working guitar with functioning coil splitting, although it may not isolate the same coil as at present (it will make the slug coil active when coils are split).

HOWEVER

You have no idea which poles will be active when you split the coils - so if you want ultimate control, you will need to do more work. If you have a multimeter, you can use a continuity tester to work out which colours out of your current green/white is part of the slug coil, and which is part of the screw coil. Then you can use the SD diagram at https://www.seymourduncan.com/wiring-diagrams?meta_params=other-misc,wiring-misc to give you an equivalent configuration to what you have at present, or you can really start to play. However, I won't get into that - this should be enough to get you going. Good luck...
 
Re: JB and Jazz Installation in Epiphone Les Paul Tribute?

I'm having some issues with installing my hot rodded set of humbuckers from seymour duncan into my 2010 Epiphone Les Paul tribute. The colors of the wires on my current humbuckers (gibson '57s) are completely different than what is depicted in the diagrams in the instructions that came with my humbuckers so don't really know where to start desoldering or how to connect my new pickups. Any ideas?

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We did a similar mod on an Epiphone SG with the SD Saturday Night Special set and it was an absolute nightmare. Is coil tapping involved with the LP Tribute? That was our problem. We actually ended up having to buy new tone and volume pots from Stewmac (the ones that came on the Epiphone SG were junk).

Here are couple pictures (although my buddy's brain was responsible for sorting out most of the wiring):

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Sorry if this doesn't totally answer your question. Just a shared experience.
 
Re: JB and Jazz Installation in Epiphone Les Paul Tribute?

Just looked at the Epiphone Les Paul Tribute specs - apologies, I thought it would be coil-splitting. It's actually Series/Parallel switching - I have a JB and Jazz pup set, and you're right, a basic series/parallel diagram isn't in the box. I had a look around and this diagram looks to be what you should be able to trace through and match, but your pictures aren't really good enough to see whether it matches. Also worth thinking about whether or not you had the guitar from new, as if you didn't, you can't guarantee the wiring is standard.

https://guitarelectronics.com/2-humbuckers-3-way-toggle-switch-2volumes-2-tones-series-parallel/
 
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Update: I believe mine does support coil-splitting with an up and down on the tone knobs for both the neck and bridge. I ended up using the seymour duncan coil splitting diagram to see if that would work and now the tone down seems to make the pickups muffled and then pulling them up actually boosts the volume. I went over to Guitar Center to see if the pros over there would have any luck with telling me what the problem was but he ended up being just as lost as me and is contacting Epiphone on my behalf to see if he can figure out what the issue is and will keep me in the loop.

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Re: JB and Jazz Installation in Epiphone Les Paul Tribute?

Oh, Jeebus. The two parties you definitely DO NOT want involved: Guitar Center and Epiphone.

When you say "muffled," do you actually mean that all the treble is gone, or do you just mean that the pickups are quieter?
 
Re: JB and Jazz Installation in Epiphone Les Paul Tribute?

Oh, Jeebus. The two parties you definitely DO NOT want involved: Guitar Center and Epiphone.

When you say "muffled," do you actually mean that all the treble is gone, or do you just mean that the pickups are quieter?
Both quieter and no treble.

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