JB Trembucker VS EMG 81

Warheart

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I'm playing through a 5150 combo(JJ tubes) with a original floyd rose guitar and I figured I'd post a review of my latest pickup switch and some theories I have.

The Emg, in this amp, was a bit too harsh. I had to tweak my amp a lot to get a good lead tone, around the g-b-e strings at the 12th fret and above. I found it helped conceal my mistakes playing up that high, but when moving down to the low E palm mutes, wasn't as helpful for covering up my mistakes.
when I played a G chord with distortion on and off you could hear EVERY note in the chord distinctly. the Eq of this pickup sounds to me like it has scoop like:
B-7
M-4
H-7
which is probably what makes it a really good metal pickup?
the sound didn't really change much when I was doing sweeps with my right hand close to the bridge, and when I moved my hand over the 20th fret or so.
I guess that has to do with the compression emgs have. I really like the 81, as I was getting a dead on slayer tone and I loved it, but i didn't really have anything to smooth out the lead tone. for some reason the pickup was quietest(DEAD SILENT) when i was facing 1/4 turn away from the amp. if i would turn any other way, it would hum a bit louder, i've read this was due to 60 cycle hum.

The JB Trembucker sounded good with the same settings as the EMG 81, but I could hear the tonal differences. I think the JB has more bass and mids, but less highs. so:
B-9
M-6
H-6
The low end is a lot tighter, playing staccato rhythms is awesome now. It doesn't have as much gain at all, but its good for cleaning this amp up. I found the distortion a lot smoother, maybe a bit more rockish sound. it had a much better lead tone on the higher frets, but it wasn't so forgiving of mistakes up there. when playing chords, the JB doesn't match up. the notes mush together more so than the Emg 81, BUT its less harsh, so it kinda outweighs it. it has more of a constant noise floor than the 81 but its not horrible...also its more prone to feedback.

overall, i'd say they are equal, it depends on taste and usage. they're just different, not so much BETTER than one another. My theory is this.
EMG 81 would be best used to get a high gain out of a Marshall. I've played through a few stacks and was horribly disappointed by their lack of gain. I think the harsh and shrill qualities of the 81 would do well to brighten up any presence lacking Marshall, which in my experience, has been every one i've played. The JB would be better suited to an amp that already has high gain.
I found the JB smoother for my purposes but I still like the rhythm crunch of the 81.
 
Re: JB Trembucker VS EMG 81

I have a JB in my Strat and an 81 in my Les Paul, I came to almost the exact conclusions. Both are great at what they do, and I'd never give up either one.

Did you run your 81 at 9v or 18v? 18v helps with the compression you were experiencing.

For rhythm, I usually run in the middle position on my LP (EMG 85/81) with the bridge 81 on full or near full and the neck 85 at 4 or 5. It keeps it cutting and defined, but adds some bass in that helps fill out mutes and keeps them sustaining just a touch longer without going muddy.

Unlike the 81, I can use my JB for rhythm and lead, as it's fat enough on it's own in the bridge to do both. It has a really heavy, chunky sound that's great for power chord rhythm, but it tends to mud up under high gain if doing anything more complex than a power chord. One of these days I'll get a Jazz to match it in the neck.
 
Re: JB Trembucker VS EMG 81

I like the 85 best for bridge, perfect combo of chunk and crunch, and it has a more open feel to it.

But, with a 5150, I'd go with EH (electro harmonix) tubes...the JJ's I found changed the EQ, lowered gain by quite a bit, and deadened my tone.
 
Re: JB Trembucker VS EMG 81

I have an ESP with 2 hums & a Floyd. At one time, it had a JB trembucker & the stock neck pickup, and now has 2 EMG 81s. If you put a gun to my head, I'd go with the JB. However, that EMG tone is cool, especially with the 18v mod. I have noticed that when the JB was in it, I could leave it on the bridge and be cool with rhythm & leads. With the EMGs, I have to switch it to the neck whenever I play leads (or just one note at a time).
 
Re: JB Trembucker VS EMG 81

yea, i was thinking JB would be a much broader-spectrum pickup - the 81 has awful cleans IMO - couldnt do anything else except metal when i had one..
 
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