Just heard Texas Hot demo on YouTube,,and,,,,WOW!!!!

zozoe29

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WOW!! What an amazing sounding neck pup! Now my decision to go with the Surfs or the Hots is all the more harder to make. Bottom line, am I going to lose those sweet & quacky middle pos. sounds that I've heard from the Surfs by going with the Hots? When I hear the Hots being described as "not so much hot as they are dark", I can't help to think that I may lose the clarity & sparkle that I hope for, along with the most possible funk & quack!

Thanks!!
 
Re: Just heard Texas Hot demo on YouTube,,and,,,,WOW!!!!

I love them both but the Antiquity II Surfer pickups are Strat heaven, very sweet traditional chime. The cleans are just like I'd expect a Strat to sound.
 
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Obviously the only option is two Strats, one with each. ;)

One of my Strats is loaded with APS-1 neck & SSL-1 middle. (My point of reference for ALNICO II and early 60's style ALNICO V Strat pickups) The notch position is not as bright as the double SSL-1 version. However it is a very nuanced, smoky notch tone. A little more mid detail and a little less treble sparkle.
 
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I have the hots in a ash body, maple neck strat & the surfs in alder body, maple neck strat. I like them both but overall I pick up the guitar with the Texas hots more often. They just seem to cover more ground. Great blues with a little bit of dirt. Roll of the volume & get nice jazz tones. If I cut back the filter and turn up the drive on my 1985 ProCo rat I get thick, singing lead tone. They seem to fill out the tonal spectrum better....if that makes sense. The surfs are nice but can sound a bit thin especially in the bridge.
 
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Nick Johnston Vids? Yeah he is a monster and that is a great tone!
 
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The Texas Hots and Surf Antiquities are a good bit smokier than regular ol' stock Fender strat pickups... rounder highs and deeper bass/low mids.

The Surfs are sort of erroneously known as brighter pickups but they are fairly dark by single coil standards.

The best part of the Surf & Texas Hot Antiquities are that they are full bodied with excellent deep bass and big piano-tone... without sacrificing too much brightness... it's a delicate balancing act but one that Seymour Duncan is all too well equipped to accomplish.

The Texas Hots seem to be a bit more rude and textured than the more polite sounding Surf Antiquities. I find the Surfs to be a bit scooped in the high mids where the Texas Hots have enough high mids to sound more aggressive IMHO.
 
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yeah the dc resistance on the Texas Hot Custom bridge is 9.7...that is HUGE for a single coil, more than a SD vintage Humbucker such as the Pearly Gates or 59!
 
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WOW!! What an amazing sounding neck pup! Now my decision to go with the Surfs or the Hots is all the more harder to make. Bottom line, am I going to lose those sweet & quacky middle pos. sounds that I've heard from the Surfs by going with the Hots? When I hear the Hots being described as "not so much hot as they are dark"

I think it was me who said that.

Please, try the APS-1 first, or the Surfers. I don't have insider info, but I suspect the Surfers sell better than the Texas Hots based on internet searches results. They haven't been around as long, and yet they garner more mention. I just removed a set of Texas Hots after not getting tonal satisfaction from them after a year.

The deal is that the SSL-1, APS-1, Ant I and Ant II all seem to have roughly the same coil, with the major difference being the magnet's strength. The full charged A5 in the SSL-1 can be a little aggressive and bright, the Ant II Surfer is a little degaussed down to around 40 from 50, and that seems to be a sweet spot. Lollar and Fralin degauss their magnets to about this amount as well, based on my own measurements of pickups I have bought from them. The Texas Hots are likely A2, and they're degaussed down to about 30 (it can vary from pickup to pickup since AlNiCo isn't the most stable, and stability decreases as the magnet becomes weaker). IMO, Texas Hots go too far down to the point of losing high end sparkle and having mushy dynamics, or "feel". I believe you need a lower wound coil to pull off this weak of a pole piece, and 6.3K is simply too hot of a wind for 30 gauss. I have Lollar Tweeds with similarly weak magnets, but they are wound to 4.9K to 5.3K IIRC, and it just works out a lot better.

You can't really trust YouTube clips, the differences between nearly all these Strat pickups deals in frequencies and nuances that are easily destroyed by the recording and YouTubing process, or the difference is more felt than heard, and you can't feel a YouTube demo. You might have been more impressed by the player and his good technique, than the pickup, in other words.
 
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yeah the dc resistance on the Texas Hot Custom bridge is 9.7...that is HUGE for a single coil, more than a SD vintage Humbucker such as the Pearly Gates or 59!

Its 43 gauge, so its more like 7.5k if you compare it to regular vintage wound strat pickups. As its a bridge posi, the thinner wire adds the thickness/mids that is especially needed for there.
 
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i have aps-2, texas hots, and surfers. they all sound great but noticeably different and i dont know if i can pick a favorite
 
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I only have yet to try the APS-2, I'm a little worried that it's like a Texas Hot without the aged aesthetics.
 
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very different. brighter and cleaner
 
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It really sounds like the Surfs will deliver all the clarity, sweetness & overall performance that I seek. The rest is up to my fingers!!:naughty:
Thanks all~~
 
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May I please say here how much I love my Ants? My guitar I have the Ants in isn't the greatest, but its not the worst either- a nice Warmoth Alder Strat with Roeswood fretboard Maple neck..

The Ants make it sound warm, woody, and true vintage, but also full and punchy as well as bright and edgy ( in a good way). Really, the best of all possible worlds. Plus Duncan delivers the goods at an excellent cost per value , I guess since they are able to deal in high volume .

I would consider the Ants an essential building block for any Strat. I have several other Warmoth and Fender Strats and some do have other brands of pickups., but the Ants are just so great that they remain one of the benchmarks by which I judge all other pickups. Munchy Crunchy and Crisp!
 
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