Klon centaur?

[vinta9e]

Re: Klon centaur?

bill never charged any where near that price, its what fools pay in the market place for used ones

Just because someone is rich doesn't mean he's a fool. Low supply and high demand make the richest buyers scoop up the product while everything the others can afford is watch and comment on the price insanity.

 

[LLL]

Re: Klon centaur?

Not surprisingly, you just listed two of the only pedals that have appreciated in price to a ridiculous degree. The Echoplex and the Klon Centaur. It's funny to think which collectibles rise faster than all others. Those are two.

You can get a true EP3 preamp (e.g. based off the TIS58 running at 24 volts) for $85-$200.

 

[dukebox]

Re: Klon centaur?

Just because someone is rich doesn't mean he's a fool. Low supply and high demand make the richest buyers scoop up the product while everything the others can afford is watch and comment on the price insanity.

I could see justifying the price, in that I could sell it for what I bought it, but there's a chance that the Klon's reputation as a killer 90's era pedal might cause it's value to drop if buyers that are nostalgic for 90's alt rock hang up their guitars.

 

[Gearjoneser]

Re: Klon centaur?

Luckily, the 90's was the only decade that focused so much on quality that it'll play out like the 50's and 60's, in terms of collectible gear. Everything like PRS, Matchless, early Bogner, Soldano, Fulltone, Dr. Z, Fender Custom Shop, Gibson Historic......it's all going to be timeless and valuable well into the future.

At this level, we're not talking about clones are better than originals as player gear It's all about certain pieces that are sure to be highly sought after in future decades. No matter what anyone thinks about Klon Centaurs, it's one of those rare gems.

The only real hiccup in collectible gear may be studio rack gear that really should be destined for collectibility, but may not be, simply because the future of recording is in software.

 

[dukebox]

Re: Klon centaur?

So long as the rack gear is analog, it will have a snob appeal that will outlive the solar system.

 

[Lewguitar]

Re: Klon centaur?

It's not for everyone.

And I prefer to use my Klon clone with my Strats.

My ES-335 with humbuckers doesn't need it.

With my Strats I can turn the guitar's volume down to 1/2 way and my sound cleans up without having to turn the pedal off or without losing all my treble and sounding muddy.

When I turn my Strat's volume control back up again, or to any point between 1/2 way and full up, I get different degrees of overdrive again.

Not saying that there are no other pedals that will do much the same thing.

Just that of all of the overdrive pedals that I've owned, the Klon (or in my case one of my three AF1's) works for me and my Strats, and through my old Fender amps, better than anything else I've owned.

I've been playing about 50 years now.

 

[Johnny the Kid]

Re: Klon centaur?

It's not for everyone.

And I prefer to use my Klon clone with my Strats.

My ES-335 with humbuckers doesn't need it.

With my Strats I can turn the guitar's volume down to 1/2 way and my sound cleans up without having to turn the pedal off or without losing all my treble and sounding muddy.

When I turn my Strat's volume control back up again, or to any point between 1/2 way and full up, I get different degrees of overdrive again.

Not saying that there are no other pedals that will do much the same thing.

Just that of all of the overdrive pedals that I've owned, the Klon (or in my case one of my three AF1's) works for me and my Strats, and through my old Fender amps, better than anything else I've owned.

I've been playing about 50 years now.

That's fine and we're not saying that people shouldn't use the Klon but some of the legendary status and mystique surrounding it I think comes from the fact that its so rare rather than everybody actually thinking it's so good. There's a certain amount of "I spent so much on this pedal so it has to be good." Once again we're not saying you shouldn't use it, but people need to stop saying you need to use it.

 

[Lewguitar]

Re: Klon centaur?

I'd put a true EP3 preamp up against a Klon dude-horse any day of the week.

Hmmm....but have you?

I have.

At least I've compared the EP Booster because I have both.

Also compared my AF1 Klon clone to a Zendrive and King of Tone because I've owned both of those too.

And a TS9 and a TS808 because I've also owned those two.

They're all wonderful pedals. I just prefer the Klon.

Also, since some say that there's no good demos of the Klon, here's a good one:

 

[LLL]

Re: Klon centaur?

Hmmm....but have you?

I have.

At least I've compared the EP Booster because I have both.

I have not tried the Klon (but I still stand by my statement).

I have tried the xotic EP Booster (which I sold) and own 2 (different make) true EP3 preamps.

There's a big difference.

Mainly, the xotic EP Booster is not a true EP3 preamp.

Just like many others out there that claim to be Echoplex preamps (but don't use the correct chip or high enough voltage).

The Echoplex EP-3 (original/real) uses a TIS58 chip running at 24 volts.

 

[MetalManiac]

Re: Klon centaur?

A Klon Clone is like ******* with a rubber. Sure, its great, but its nothing like the real thing. Jonsers Klon is one of the most enviable things in his entire impeccable collection. Its only worth as much as it is because its inimitable, iconoclastic, and in short, one of the world best ever overdrives that cannot ever be replicated. To think otherwise is purely delusional.
He knows he would be a fool to sell it..its a betetr investment than gold, and IMO will skyrocket in price w/in the next ten years.

 

[Lewguitar]

Re: Klon centaur?

I've owned several.

Original Echoplex's I mean.

Sold one to TGWIF a few years ago. I use an old EH Memory Man now. Gotta couple of them.

I kind of like the EP Booster, especially with my ES-335.

With a Strat and with single coils I like my PE Klon clone (AF1) better.

Some guys love the Klon...some don't.

Scott Henderson doesn't. Says it has to much gain.

Others say it doesn't have enough gain. Metalheads I would guess.

It's just right for Jeff Beck.

And for me too.

But I don't care for it with humbuckers.

Only with Strats with single coils.

YMMV.

 

[Gearjoneser]

Re: Klon centaur?

It's kind of the same thing as Rupert Neve's recording consoles. Sure, there's lots of mixing boards, but his is the one with the magic.

 

[Myaccount876]

Re: Klon centaur?

Joe, in post #13 you list your top OD pedals. That was 5 years ago. Any new additions, or is it still pretty much the same?

 

[Gearjoneser]

Re: Klon centaur?

There's so many flavors, and ones that are better with clean amps, and ones that are better with overdriven amps.

There's a few I'd add to the list, like the Barber LTD, CMatmods Brownie and Sigma, Bogner Red and Blue, Xotic RC Booster, Wampler Euphoria, and a few from Mad Professor like the Bluebird.

 

[beaubrummels]

Re: Klon centaur?

The only real hiccup in collectible gear may be studio rack gear that really should be destined for collectibility, but may not be, simply because the future of recording is in software.

Side note - I have a few rack pieces that no software or pedal has been able to reproduce the sound of with the exact same quality and frequency response. The only down side to some gear of previous eras is that the era it was made in didn't have balanced outs or a low enough noise floor, etc., such that, while it sounds amazing, it's flaws are more apparent in current recording. Of course, for distortion boxes, this is far less of a concern.

I'm a bit mind-blown how close these sound to each other (in the videos at least):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s6wqvpB1M2U
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xl4EtPO7q6U

 

[Securb]

Re: Klon centaur?

I don't believe we are here again. There are a ton of pedals that blow away the Klon Centaur. Even it they were still the original price there are pedals out there that spank them for less money.