KM 6 string bridge pickup metal shootout!

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Thoughts??

I really like the distortion.

The nazgul still sounds so shrill.

Pegasus sounded muffled in this guitar...
 
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I wasn't too impressed actually... I was listening to headphones. And now I heard how middy the JB can be, I understand some peoples view on the pickup now.

(My JB does not sound like that...)


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I know its not a gain monster, but I would really love to hear him put the screamin demon in one of these comparison videos.
 
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Yeah can he please do a similiar metal video with the weaker pickups? I think it would be fun. sh-1, alnico2p, demon, perpetual, seth lover, pearly gates, etc

In the video above for this situation, I like the Nazgul, Alternative 8, Omega, full shred, Invader, Pegasus, blackout, and then the Black Winter best overall.
 
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I was digging the bright, clear, but not ceramic-y top end of the Pegasus and the Custom 5, but the EXTREMELY boomy low-end wasn't quite doing it for me.

The JB's upper and lower mid-focused bite and chunk, respectively, were cool, but it seemed to me like the sound was dialed in for a pickup with more actual high and low end.

The Black Winter has a killer voicing and EQ curve, but the tone seems to have been dialed in to some of the offerings with less output. Still, really interesting.

I dug the Alternative 8 and Distortion too because they had some stuff I liked about the Black Winter and JB.

The Omega sounded like it's related to the Pegasus and Nazgul design. The Nazgul and the Omega weren't really my thing. Kinda too dry.

And now I heard how middy the JB can be, I understand some peoples view on the pickup now.
I always thought my JB has fat low mids rather than actual deep lows. I like them in the right guitar, but yeah, I can totally get why it may sound "loose" to some. That's just me, though.

Speaking of low mids, it would seem to me like the Invader is way more low-mid-heavy than the JB in this comparison.
 
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The Omega was more aggressive than I would have thought. It sounds very similar to the Nazgul, in my opinion.
 
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Djent pickups are aggressive in the upper mids.

I figured it was more in the higher registers. I tried a Nazgul in my seven string and it was so aggressive I couldn't control it. I swapped in a Pegasus soon after.
 
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I figured it was more in the higher registers. I tried a Nazgul in my seven string and it was so aggressive I couldn't control it. I swapped in a Pegasus soon after.

Nah, this is just in the 1-2 k area. Just like a babys scream.

The nazgul had a weird pick attack in that video IMO. It sounded strange...


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I'm a fan of the Full Shred from that video, to the point where I think I'm buying a set for my Alder/Maple/Ebony 7 string in Bb.
 
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I know its not a gain monster, but I would really love to hear him put the screamin demon in one of these comparison videos.

That's one thing I don't get about this and the previous vid like this he did. He included the Full Shred, which only has a DCR of 10k, IIRC, but didn't include the Screamin' Demon which is also a 10k pickup. I've used the SD for high gain stuff, and it's great for that stuff. And I also think he should've thrown the Perpetual Burn into the mix.
 
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The Full Shred is like 14K, dude.

I would've liked to hear the Perpetual Burn and the '59 too, honestly.
 
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That's one thing I don't get about this and the previous vid like this he did. He included the Full Shred, which only has a DCR of 10k, IIRC, but didn't include the Screamin' Demon which is also a 10k pickup. I've used the SD for high gain stuff, and it's great for that stuff. And I also think he should've thrown the Perpetual Burn into the mix.

I honestly think they should have done every pickup in the line up. Yeah, its a lot of work, but well worth it in the grand scheme of things.
 
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My favourites from this video were the Omega, Nazgul, Black Winter and Full Shred. I thought all had a balanced, tight and clear tone in this video,with the Nazgul and Omega sounding the most aggressive of the 4. Least favourite were the Alt 8 and Pegasus.

Another observation: from this video, the Custom 5, which alot of folks say is more scooped than Hetfields Mesa on,"And Justice For All" actually sounded more full in the mids than either the regular Custom played before it, or the Pegasus.
 
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I honestly think they should have done every pickup in the line up. Yeah, its a lot of work, but well worth it in the grand scheme of things.

Not really... its a targeted vid... this is a vid for high gain guys 99% of high gain guys dont care what a SH55 or a A2pro sound like under high gain. So instead of forcing you to wade through a sea of clips they try to narrow it down to the pickups most guys doing this sort of music are interested in. It makes sense this way. Doing a clip of every pickup in every style gets to be a monumental amount of work for little pay off.

Could even be detrimental, you post a vid like this of the antiquities doesnt matter if it sounds good or not you will get a portion of the people who are interested in those pickups complaining "i dont play this style of music! you cant hear anything with that much gain" and possibly turn them off from purchasing the pickup.

You will never make every one happy with something like this so you just go after the lions share, Personally I think Merrow has a knack for making everything sound very similar. The guy can make playdoh sound good but isnt my favorite for highlighting the differences between things.
 
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Another observation: from this video, the Custom 5, which alot of folks say is more scooped than Hetfields Mesa on,"And Justice For All" actually sounded more full in the mids than either the regular Custom played before it, or the Pegasus.
I was surprised to hear the Pegasus was even more scooped than the Custom 5 too.
 
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I like his demo, but I don't like his music and most of the time I hate his amp tone. I would be interested what the lower output pups sound like, as I use some of them for heavy music.
When I record comparison clips for my own use, the differences under high gain are rather minimal, even between pickups that seem totally different on paper. Which makes me wonder if he doesn't cheat by applying eq afterwards, even if he says he doesn't.
 
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I like most of these. You get the general idea of what each pickup does.

By the way. What would you get if you put and A8 or maybe even an A5 in a Nazgul?
 
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Not really... its a targeted vid... this is a vid for high gain guys 99% of high gain guys dont care what a SH55 or a A2pro sound like under high gain. So instead of forcing you to wade through a sea of clips they try to narrow it down to the pickups most guys doing this sort of music are interested in. It makes sense this way. Doing a clip of every pickup in every style gets to be a monumental amount of work for little pay off.

Could even be detrimental, you post a vid like this of the antiquities doesnt matter if it sounds good or not you will get a portion of the people who are interested in those pickups complaining "i dont play this style of music! you cant hear anything with that much gain" and possibly turn them off from purchasing the pickup.

You will never make every one happy with something like this so you just go after the lions share, Personally I think Merrow has a knack for making everything sound very similar. The guy can make playdoh sound good but isnt my favorite for highlighting the differences between things.

Eh, I don't necessarily agree with that. I know guys that use '59s and stock PAFs for death metal. It could be done in installments. "High gain pickups", " Medium gain pickups", "Vintage spec pickups". Just put the products out of their respective comfort zones and see what happens.
 
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