Anybody have experience with these? I'm looking for a great head for some extreme metal/shred stuff. How is the clean channel? Does the distortion retain clarity and defintion. Is there a good low end chunk? If anybody can give me an in-depth review of these that would be great. There's no where close by that I can try one out at and I listened to a few clips on their website and was digging it(some of the recording quality wasn't that good though). Anybody that has used one please give me some insight as I am really considering picking one up. Thanks guys
Krank Revolution
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DeadSkinSlayer3
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Re: Krank Revolution
Can't give you a big review on it... I tried it once briefly. It's like a better 5150, basically.
If you're going to spend that much money on it, though, get a VHT, IMO.
Here is a post with some clips, testing out different cabinets:
http://www.ultimatemetal.com/forum/showpost.php?p=3950711&postcount=32
Can't give you a big review on it... I tried it once briefly. It's like a better 5150, basically.
If you're going to spend that much money on it, though, get a VHT, IMO.
Here is a post with some clips, testing out different cabinets:
http://www.ultimatemetal.com/forum/showpost.php?p=3950711&postcount=32
Gearjoneser
Gear Ho
Re: Krank Revolution
It's funny that DSS3 mentions 5150 and VHT, because the Krank is really in that same ballpark, tonewise and featurewise.
The Krank is a very wide open sounding metal amp, probably due to it's large transformers and simple circuits.
The Kleen channel sounds like a bigger glassier version of the 5150's clean channel.....a closer comparison would be a Peavey Classic 100 sound, and Classics have great cleans! Since it's a very loud amp, the clean headroom is enormous, but finding an early breakup on it is NOT what the Krank Kleen channel is about.
The gain channel has the same wide open and dry, brutal crunchy highs, and low end that'll rearange your furniture. This channel has the ability to go for the scooped Mesa Rectifier tones, and the same sort of liquid gain that's capable out of the VHT. And, because of it's simpler circuitry, the amp's noise floor is pretty low for a highgain amp. It's got the palm muted chunk that'll hit you right in the stomach! It's laid out very much like a Bogner Ubershall or Diezel Herbert, and those are the kinds of tones to expect out of it, although the Uber or Herbert will beat it marginally, mostly due to a sweeter midrange and a little more sustain on single notes. It's quality lies right in between the Peavey 5150 and the Bogner Uberschall. It's really put together to be a long lasting road amp, so I can imagine them being around for awhile.
It's funny that DSS3 mentions 5150 and VHT, because the Krank is really in that same ballpark, tonewise and featurewise.
The Krank is a very wide open sounding metal amp, probably due to it's large transformers and simple circuits.
The Kleen channel sounds like a bigger glassier version of the 5150's clean channel.....a closer comparison would be a Peavey Classic 100 sound, and Classics have great cleans! Since it's a very loud amp, the clean headroom is enormous, but finding an early breakup on it is NOT what the Krank Kleen channel is about.
The gain channel has the same wide open and dry, brutal crunchy highs, and low end that'll rearange your furniture. This channel has the ability to go for the scooped Mesa Rectifier tones, and the same sort of liquid gain that's capable out of the VHT. And, because of it's simpler circuitry, the amp's noise floor is pretty low for a highgain amp. It's got the palm muted chunk that'll hit you right in the stomach! It's laid out very much like a Bogner Ubershall or Diezel Herbert, and those are the kinds of tones to expect out of it, although the Uber or Herbert will beat it marginally, mostly due to a sweeter midrange and a little more sustain on single notes. It's quality lies right in between the Peavey 5150 and the Bogner Uberschall. It's really put together to be a long lasting road amp, so I can imagine them being around for awhile.
Gearjoneser
Gear Ho
Re: Krank Revolution
Also, there's a forum member who owns www.revolutionguitar.com His tube business also sells some brands of amps, including KRANK, so maybe he can give you a deal on a new one. Go to his site, and ask him for info.
Also, there's a forum member who owns www.revolutionguitar.com His tube business also sells some brands of amps, including KRANK, so maybe he can give you a deal on a new one. Go to his site, and ask him for info.
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DeadSkinSlayer3
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Re: Krank Revolution
VHT = liquidy? VHT's are some of the driest amps, IMO.
but between 5150 and uber, there's a ton of room LOL. Similar amps, though, voicing wise.
I think that 5150's, Rectifiers, VHT's, Framus Cobra's, Uberschalls, and Kranks are all really based around the same circuit and tone (I know the 5150 and recto are similar circuits, if not near-identical), and all sound great, but different.
5150's are better for extreme metal, 2 guitar black/death/melodeath metal bands, who don't use cleans. Also good for hardcore.
Rectifiers are better for a more modern sounding band, and sound 'bigger.' Also have good cleans.
VHT's strike me more as a lead guitarist amp, or someone who needs a ton of clarity. Iced Earth comes to mind. Clean's are like a better 5150, but not anything to rave about.
Cobra's, to me, are like the direct cross of a 5150 and Recto, but voiced a tad darker. Killer amps, to say the least.
Uberschalls... like the holy grail of 5150's? I've never actually played one.
Kranks are like a bigger, more glassy, defined, Marshally 5150, with less gain. Way better cleans.
VHT = liquidy? VHT's are some of the driest amps, IMO.
but between 5150 and uber, there's a ton of room LOL. Similar amps, though, voicing wise.
I think that 5150's, Rectifiers, VHT's, Framus Cobra's, Uberschalls, and Kranks are all really based around the same circuit and tone (I know the 5150 and recto are similar circuits, if not near-identical), and all sound great, but different.
5150's are better for extreme metal, 2 guitar black/death/melodeath metal bands, who don't use cleans. Also good for hardcore.
Rectifiers are better for a more modern sounding band, and sound 'bigger.' Also have good cleans.
VHT's strike me more as a lead guitarist amp, or someone who needs a ton of clarity. Iced Earth comes to mind. Clean's are like a better 5150, but not anything to rave about.
Cobra's, to me, are like the direct cross of a 5150 and Recto, but voiced a tad darker. Killer amps, to say the least.
Uberschalls... like the holy grail of 5150's? I've never actually played one.
Kranks are like a bigger, more glassy, defined, Marshally 5150, with less gain. Way better cleans.
krankguitarist
Krankitupologist
Re: Krank Revolution
I got one, and absolutely love it. Cleans are very nice...doesn't break up very easily at all, can either be a good thing or a bad thing depending on your situation, but I tend to typically like the big, ultra-clean sounds that I can get out of it.
The KRANK channel is very, very clear and defined. However, I found with the stock tubes it tended to be a little stiff...I'm not a big fan of the sovtek 5881's. I'm running a matched quad of JJ/tesla 6l6GC's in mine, they really helped to smooth out the high-end.
I think GJ did a very good job of describing it...though I wouldn't compare it's cleans to a 5150, the 5150's leave a lot to be desired in cleans.
My other guitarist runs his boss ME-50 into two amps, a 150 watt marshall AVT150 and a 85 watt fender twin. He has a lot of trouble competing with the "huge" sound my Krank puts out. It really doesn't have anything to do with volume, as much as the tonality...GJ is right...these things can re-arrange your furniture.
I got one, and absolutely love it. Cleans are very nice...doesn't break up very easily at all, can either be a good thing or a bad thing depending on your situation, but I tend to typically like the big, ultra-clean sounds that I can get out of it.
The KRANK channel is very, very clear and defined. However, I found with the stock tubes it tended to be a little stiff...I'm not a big fan of the sovtek 5881's. I'm running a matched quad of JJ/tesla 6l6GC's in mine, they really helped to smooth out the high-end.
I think GJ did a very good job of describing it...though I wouldn't compare it's cleans to a 5150, the 5150's leave a lot to be desired in cleans.
My other guitarist runs his boss ME-50 into two amps, a 150 watt marshall AVT150 and a 85 watt fender twin. He has a lot of trouble competing with the "huge" sound my Krank puts out. It really doesn't have anything to do with volume, as much as the tonality...GJ is right...these things can re-arrange your furniture.
Gearjoneser
Gear Ho
Re: Krank Revolution
Krank, didn't you recently find the best speaker combination for heavy tones....a quad of mismatched Eminence? I'm curious about how they compare to Vin 30's.
Krank, didn't you recently find the best speaker combination for heavy tones....a quad of mismatched Eminence? I'm curious about how they compare to Vin 30's.
Chi3f
Member
Re: Krank Revolution
he has a hard time because the avt150 is the biggest piece of crap i've ever played. I owned the full stack version for 2 years and everyday i would try to get something usefull out of it and everyday it failed. Never will i be led astray by fancy marketing. Every channel is garbage, clean channel sounds like a bad digital waveform, almost like you can hear the steps. distortion is half hearted and for being 150w it has nothing on a 50 watt dsl. nevermind a 100.
sorry for the rant but i hate that amp with a passion.:yell:
krankguitarist said:
he has a hard time because the avt150 is the biggest piece of crap i've ever played. I owned the full stack version for 2 years and everyday i would try to get something usefull out of it and everyday it failed. Never will i be led astray by fancy marketing. Every channel is garbage, clean channel sounds like a bad digital waveform, almost like you can hear the steps. distortion is half hearted and for being 150w it has nothing on a 50 watt dsl. nevermind a 100.
sorry for the rant but i hate that amp with a passion.:yell:
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DeadSkinSlayer3
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Re: Krank Revolution
It's not Krank cabs, it's the speakers. They sound, and Andy Sneap will attest to this, AMAZING in the room. Better than a Boogie cabinet.
But, unfortunately, the Eminence V12's sound so horrible mic'd up, it's not even funny.
taphappy said:
It's not Krank cabs, it's the speakers. They sound, and Andy Sneap will attest to this, AMAZING in the room. Better than a Boogie cabinet.
But, unfortunately, the Eminence V12's sound so horrible mic'd up, it's not even funny.
Metalman_666
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Re: Krank Revolution
I've heard so many good and bad things about the Revolution that's it's really hard to find out what I should believe. I would say if you can find somewhere to give one a good test run, do that. Unfortunately I don't know of any dealers that carry them anywhere near me
I've heard so many good and bad things about the Revolution that's it's really hard to find out what I should believe. I would say if you can find somewhere to give one a good test run, do that. Unfortunately I don't know of any dealers that carry them anywhere near me
krankguitarist
Krankitupologist
Re: Krank Revolution
You won't get any argument from me
. I've been tryin to convince him to get a new amp for years...and he does...with a fender twin. Only problem, is the guy's a total metalhead...and he buys a fender twin :smack:. That'd be cool if he already had a good amp for gettin heavy tones...but...oh well.
I'm runnin mine through a boogie traditional cab right now...just swapped out the old Vintage 30's with a set of 2 eminence man-o-wars, and 2 governors. I found that the V-30s added a great "crunch" to the amp...but at times they seemed a tad brittle and harsh. The new speakers really helped to smooth that out...gave it a bit more "thud" to the bass as well. Though, I liked the cleans I got out of the vintage 30's a bit more, now I really have to tame the bass on the clean channel to keep it from rattling the entire room.
Chi3f said:
You won't get any argument from me
. I've been tryin to convince him to get a new amp for years...and he does...with a fender twin. Only problem, is the guy's a total metalhead...and he buys a fender twin :smack:. That'd be cool if he already had a good amp for gettin heavy tones...but...oh well. Gearjoneser said:
I'm runnin mine through a boogie traditional cab right now...just swapped out the old Vintage 30's with a set of 2 eminence man-o-wars, and 2 governors. I found that the V-30s added a great "crunch" to the amp...but at times they seemed a tad brittle and harsh. The new speakers really helped to smooth that out...gave it a bit more "thud" to the bass as well. Though, I liked the cleans I got out of the vintage 30's a bit more, now I really have to tame the bass on the clean channel to keep it from rattling the entire room.
Re: Krank Revolution
Yeah I've heard a lot of bad and good reviews about them too. I'd have to drive about 2-3 hours just to try one out. Somebody on another forum said something I really liked and made me really want to try one. A lot of people were knocking Krank because they're so expensive but you pay for what you get. He said that a lot of people were knocking Krank's because they weren't Bogners and they're pretty much the new amp everyone is dying to have, so everything else is getting the short end of the stick. Don't get me wrong, Diezel's and Bogner's sound awesome, but not everyone can afford one. That's why I asked you guys because most everyone here has more experience with amps like this than I do. My amp experience is limited to Line 6, Peavey, Marshall and Mesa. Thanks a lot guys! Any other reviews would be awesome but I think I'm going to go ahead adn give it a try.
Yeah I've heard a lot of bad and good reviews about them too. I'd have to drive about 2-3 hours just to try one out. Somebody on another forum said something I really liked and made me really want to try one. A lot of people were knocking Krank because they're so expensive but you pay for what you get. He said that a lot of people were knocking Krank's because they weren't Bogners and they're pretty much the new amp everyone is dying to have, so everything else is getting the short end of the stick. Don't get me wrong, Diezel's and Bogner's sound awesome, but not everyone can afford one. That's why I asked you guys because most everyone here has more experience with amps like this than I do. My amp experience is limited to Line 6, Peavey, Marshall and Mesa. Thanks a lot guys! Any other reviews would be awesome but I think I'm going to go ahead adn give it a try.
Metalman_666
New member
Re: Krank Revolution
Good luck then dude, hopefully you'll find it to be what you want.
Good luck then dude, hopefully you'll find it to be what you want.
BigBazz
New member
Re: Krank Revolution
Listening to them clips i liked the Mesa Oversized cab the most, Couldent choose between which amp i liked more, so i molded both tracks (5150 and krank through mesa oversized) together in cubase and they sounded awesome.
How was that recorded? its extremely tight, like someone recorded a clean signal then pressed play through each amp and cab so that the playing was identical each time.
Listening to them clips i liked the Mesa Oversized cab the most, Couldent choose between which amp i liked more, so i molded both tracks (5150 and krank through mesa oversized) together in cubase and they sounded awesome.
How was that recorded? its extremely tight, like someone recorded a clean signal then pressed play through each amp and cab so that the playing was identical each time.
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DeadSkinSlayer3
Guest
Re: Krank Revolution
Precisely. It's called reamping.
That's the tone he's using on his bands next album, 2 tracks of Krank, 2 of 5150. Sounds amazing!
He kept the trad, and I have to agree, it sounds best, especially live.
BigBazz said:
Precisely. It's called reamping
.That's the tone he's using on his bands next album, 2 tracks of Krank, 2 of 5150. Sounds amazing!
He kept the trad, and I have to agree, it sounds best, especially live.
krankguitarist
Krankitupologist
Re: Krank Revolution
Thats some pretty trippy shinnit. Never realized how much of a tonal difference there was between the standard and traditional cabs. I gotta say I like the traditional cab the most outta the bunch.
DeadSkinSlayer3 said:
Thats some pretty trippy shinnit. Never realized how much of a tonal difference there was between the standard and traditional cabs. I gotta say I like the traditional cab the most outta the bunch.