Les Paul Neck P/U '59 or Jazz (PG in there now)
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JeffB
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Re: Les Paul Neck P/U '59 or Jazz (PG in there now)
Hmm..interesting.....The "moore" tone is a2...and mismatched wind...really the best pup I've heard to nail that sound is the Burstbucker 1. Closest thing to that BB1 in the Duncan line is a PGn or Seth (BB1 kinda sits between them tonally)
59 will not have the mids, and the top end will be much brighter...clear. And the bass is much boomier. It's a GREAT sound, and I've had 'em ina bunch of guitars... but it's def not like Gary's old Paula.
Richrath..heh..good to see his name mentioned :bigthumb:..He always has some of the best Les Paul/Marshall tones. Live version of Riding the Storm Out anyone??
I think a Seth would prolly be your best bet in the Duncan line. It's sings a bit better/is smoother than the PG without being as Boomy or bright as the 59n.
But if you're not stuck on duncans, I'd highly reccomend that BB1.
Hmm..interesting.....The "moore" tone is a2...and mismatched wind...really the best pup I've heard to nail that sound is the Burstbucker 1. Closest thing to that BB1 in the Duncan line is a PGn or Seth (BB1 kinda sits between them tonally)
59 will not have the mids, and the top end will be much brighter...clear. And the bass is much boomier. It's a GREAT sound, and I've had 'em ina bunch of guitars... but it's def not like Gary's old Paula.
Richrath..heh..good to see his name mentioned :bigthumb:..He always has some of the best Les Paul/Marshall tones. Live version of Riding the Storm Out anyone??
I think a Seth would prolly be your best bet in the Duncan line. It's sings a bit better/is smoother than the PG without being as Boomy or bright as the 59n.
But if you're not stuck on duncans, I'd highly reccomend that BB1.
L
Lewguitar
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Re: Les Paul Neck P/U '59 or Jazz (PG in there now)
For more bass, you probably need to get away from the PGN and alnico 2 style pickups and go to an alnico 5 magnet humbucker. I think the Jazz or the 59n would be be logical choices. I'd go for the Jazz neck myself...it's clearer and although it has more bass like you want, it also has a nice, chimey top end with extended harmonics.
Lew
For more bass, you probably need to get away from the PGN and alnico 2 style pickups and go to an alnico 5 magnet humbucker. I think the Jazz or the 59n would be be logical choices. I'd go for the Jazz neck myself...it's clearer and although it has more bass like you want, it also has a nice, chimey top end with extended harmonics.
Lew
Aceman
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Re: Les Paul Neck P/U '59 or Jazz (PG in there now)
Meneketti & Richrath! Ahhhhhhhhhh - someone with a refined Palette for killer LP tone! Those guys are two of my personal favorites for just listening. I'll ignore the Gary Moore thing because that's a different tonal school IMO ...but he's cool too.
I'd say 59, although I think Richrath used SuperD's....I've seen some photos that are double cream hexes...ergo SuperD
Meneketti & Richrath! Ahhhhhhhhhh - someone with a refined Palette for killer LP tone! Those guys are two of my personal favorites for just listening. I'll ignore the Gary Moore thing because that's a different tonal school IMO ...but he's cool too.
I'd say 59, although I think Richrath used SuperD's....I've seen some photos that are double cream hexes...ergo SuperD
J.LaGrassa
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Re: Les Paul Neck P/U '59 or Jazz (PG in there now)
I have a pair of 59's in my Les Paul Classic, I actually like the full sound the 59N has there is definitely no shortage of low end in the 59n though!
I have a pair of 59's in my Les Paul Classic, I actually like the full sound the 59N has there is definitely no shortage of low end in the 59n though!
Re: Les Paul Neck P/U '59 or Jazz (PG in there now)
Yes, definately an A5 for my taste, I want a bit more low end, not a huge bottom. I know the '59 will do the trick but I'm giving the Jazz serious thought. The sound samples are very close. I really appreciate your opinions and experienced observations.
Yes, definately an A5 for my taste, I want a bit more low end, not a huge bottom. I know the '59 will do the trick but I'm giving the Jazz serious thought. The sound samples are very close. I really appreciate your opinions and experienced observations.
Moonsorrow
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Re: Les Paul Neck P/U '59 or Jazz (PG in there now)
+1 for the Gibson Burstbucker 1!!!!!
JeffB said:Hmm..interesting.....The "moore" tone is a2...and mismatched wind...really the best pup I've heard to nail that sound is the Burstbucker 1. Closest thing to that BB1 in the Duncan line is a PGn or Seth (BB1 kinda sits between them tonally)
59 will not have the mids, and the top end will be much brighter...clear. And the bass is much boomier. It's a GREAT sound, and I've had 'em ina bunch of guitars... but it's def not like Gary's old Paula.
Richrath..heh..good to see his name mentioned :bigthumb:..He always has some of the best Les Paul/Marshall tones. Live version of Riding the Storm Out anyone??
I think a Seth would prolly be your best bet in the Duncan line. It's sings a bit better/is smoother than the PG without being as Boomy or bright as the 59n.
But if you're not stuck on duncans, I'd highly reccomend that BB1.
+1 for the Gibson Burstbucker 1!!!!!
J
Jay 77
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Re: Les Paul Neck P/U '59 or Jazz (PG in there now)
Just put a '59n in last night. It's amazing! The sound clips don't do it any justice. I'm blown away by this pickup.
Just put a '59n in last night. It's amazing! The sound clips don't do it any justice. I'm blown away by this pickup.
J
Jay 77
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Re: Les Paul Neck P/U '59 or Jazz (PG in there now)
The 59 is sparkly & bright. It's huge and I love it!
The 59 is sparkly & bright. It's huge and I love it!
Re: Les Paul Neck P/U '59 or Jazz (PG in there now)
Just a quick update, My '59 came a day early so I popped it in the Paul tonight. My first impressions are that I like it better than the Pearly Gates Neck. I was initially concerned that it would have more bottom than I wanted and I found it interesting that it was actually a bit more treble forward than I thought it would be, probably due to the A5. That is a good thing for me. One thing the really pleased me was how perfectly balanced the guitar is now (I have the '59 bridge in there too) with the full '59 set. It blends beautifully with the bridge pickup, better, in my opinion than others I have sampled. It has a very nice tone above the 12th fret. Yes, I do think that it provides me with that Meniketti type Les Paul "whistle" that I have been seeking.
I'm still curious about the Jazz, but maybe another time, another Les Paul. This one is complete. Thanks to all for the valuable input.
Just a quick update, My '59 came a day early so I popped it in the Paul tonight. My first impressions are that I like it better than the Pearly Gates Neck. I was initially concerned that it would have more bottom than I wanted and I found it interesting that it was actually a bit more treble forward than I thought it would be, probably due to the A5. That is a good thing for me. One thing the really pleased me was how perfectly balanced the guitar is now (I have the '59 bridge in there too) with the full '59 set. It blends beautifully with the bridge pickup, better, in my opinion than others I have sampled. It has a very nice tone above the 12th fret. Yes, I do think that it provides me with that Meniketti type Les Paul "whistle" that I have been seeking.
I'm still curious about the Jazz, but maybe another time, another Les Paul. This one is complete. Thanks to all for the valuable input.