little help please!

[metal]

Re: little help please!

Hey - all I'm sayin' is that I see a post by a guy looking for Trivium/Metallica sounds and he got rid of a 5150 and a Mesa because they didn't pony up those sounds. I don't think the problem is the amp. I can walk into the guitar center of your choice, pick up the first LP I come to, plug into any Peavey Transtube over 30 watts, futz with the eq/gain for about a minute, and rip the intro to Enter Sandman close enough that you'd be in the front of the store wondering why they put that album on. If I add a bit of really tight delay and mix it low it will sound that much better.

Perhaps I have Hetfields right hand technique -I don't know. And I appologize for not having your Eric Johnson-esque ears. Or perhaps your studio experience. Either way though - the BASIC tone is about 95% available straight through most modern high gain amps. I'm suggesting that this guy examine some other possible causes for not getting the sound - like how to work an eq, or the muting, or the gain. He didn't know where to put the Tube Screamer - that's a cry for help, not a recommendation for a new toy as an excuse for not getting those tones. That's wtf.

sorry man but your like 40 years old ! i never use a tubescreamer before whats wrong with not knowing how to run it , also sorry for not having james hetfield technique like you do, and maybe like i have better ears or something cause you can get metallica's studio tone with a solid state amp and any guitar ! and i cant get it with a mesa and emg's

 

[Aceman]

Re: little help please!

Throwing money into the stuff is not the answer -although it's fun...And let's get this straight: I'M 39! However, that does mean I've had some time to practice. I started playing Fade to Black in, uh, well -a long time ago.

What is the sound you are trying to get? What is "lacking" in the Mesa sound?

I like to go for "off the album" sounds a lot of the time (but not always). The key to me seems to be #1 work the eq-which is tough and takes some time/effort/work. #2 Gain is almost always better when it's less, particularly as you get louder. #3 the right & careful use of effects: You can't do EVH without the right phase/flange, delay settings and a good verb (Plate for VH I). Finally the guitar and pups - but that only has to be close: Basic axe type (LP/Strat) and pup type (SC/HB) and maybe pup style (active/passive, high/low output) Obviously some of the "gods" require a certain touch, but (no offense) Hetfield isn't one of them IMO.