Live Guitar panning with 2 amps

[Ursupator]

Hi,
I'm playing rhythm guitar in a metal band.
Now I'm planning to upgrade my rig to a 2 amp (wet-wet) setup. Both will go directly into a D.I. Box/Cab Sim and from there into the mixer.
Also I want to use a subtle Stereo Chorus Pedal, cause I like the massiveness it gives my sound.


How would I habe to pan the guitar in the Live Mix (we don't have a tech so I have to do it myself)?
I thought about 75% panning.
And if I go mono/0%, would I loose the "sound widening" benefits of the stereo chrous?

 

[some_dude]

Re: Live Guitar panning with 2 amps

How would I habe to pan the guitar in the Live Mix (we don't have a tech so I have to do it myself)?
I thought about 75% panning.
And if I go mono/0%, would I loose the "sound widening" benefits of the stereo chrous?

Generally, you don’t. Stereo doesn’t work live all that well because it only functions for someone who’s standing in the center of the stereo field. For everyone else who’s primarily to the left or right of that, they’ll primarily hear mono out of whatever speaker is closest to them.

On top of that, I don’t think most venues are set up for stereo. There’s no isolation, some have center-fills, sound is bouncing everywhere and if it’s a small-to-medium sized club then stage volume will bleed into the room.

IMO, a lot of wet/wet guitar rigs aren’t so much about producing a stereo image as they are about producing clarity (if both amps are similar) and/or a broader spread of frequencies(if both amps are different).

 

[Mincer]

Re: Live Guitar panning with 2 amps

I like the clarity of a stereo PA, and many bigger festivals I've played have gone to stereo (or even more channels). We own our own stereo PA, and I go direct. It sounds great to me.

 

[Chris Pile]

Re: Live Guitar panning with 2 amps

Stereo is for headphones.
Playing stereo live is just kidding yourself.

 

[Ursupator]

Re: Live Guitar panning with 2 amps

Stereo is for headphones.
Playing stereo live is just kidding yourself.

I don't want to achieve "live stereo". It's more about a wider bandwidth of sounds.

I like the clarity of a stereo PA, and many bigger festivals I've played have gone to stereo (or even more channels). We own our own stereo PA, and I go direct. It sounds great to me.

We only do bar and club gigs and don't own a PA. Most of the time we have to do our own mix and put into the locations PA. And if the place does it for us the sound guy asks if I have stereo effects that need the guitar to be mixed different for.

 

[Ursupator]

Re: Live Guitar panning with 2 amps

IMO, a lot of wet/wet guitar rigs aren’t so much about producing a stereo image as they are about producing clarity (if both amps are similar) and/or a broader spread of frequencies(if both amps are different).

The amps are both the same. Laney IRT Studio

 

[Ursupator]

Re: Live Guitar panning with 2 amps

I know it's been some time since I started the topic, but me and a few friends figured out a cool way for a massive live sound, just by using my existing rig + a mimiq doubler that I bought used for nearly nothing.


Amp D.I. Out -> Stereo chorus (set up reallysubtle) =>TC Electronics Mimiq Doubler (3 dubs, set up quiet low) => Digitech CabDryVR => Mixer (100% panned)

Giving the Mimiq Doubler now I got a "dry" (center) signal and two off center wet signals, all crambed into a small 4U Rack.

And it really works. I had bit of a phasing issue, but with the help of the chrous pedal I solved it.

And now it's face melting :evil: