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Chris0709

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Hi all, first time posting so go easy on me!
Here's what I'm looking at;. Picked up a future tribute for a project, hate the quick connect systems and am planning on gutting and rewiring the whole thing. I have a pair of pearly Gates to throw in, and am trying to decide the control acheme want.
What I'm thinking right now is this: PTB control through a master volume. That leaves one open pot, which I want to do as a blend knob. I got it worked out but it leaves the toggle as unnecessary. The question then becomes what to do with that space? Do I do a phase switch? Any other ideas? Alternate wiring schemes or ideas on what to do with the toggle would be appreciated, the goal being as much versitility as possible. Not my main axe so mostly concerned with getting some cool tone tinkering worked in.
 
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Phase switch? Kill button? Series/parallel switch? Coil cut? It depends on what sound you want that isn't available any other way. What kind of music are you playing? And what is wrong with the quick connect system (I never owned one, so I am just curious).
 
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Nothing specifically wrong with the quick connect, but when swapping components you're either limited to already qc parts or have to hook up adapters which I feel is more a pain than a little desoldering, but that's just me. As for music, I do a lot of blues, some jazz and classic rock stuff too. Tend to go more clean but was thinking a tighter control over my gain sounds might encourage more experimenting. Nothing over the top, just light distortion or fuzz tone on occasion. Sorry I know thays a little broad but hope it helps
 
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I wire for independent volume controls, so I can blend them is any combination, you don't need an extra pot for that. Just change which lugs the PU and toggle wires go to on the volume pots.

To me, spin-a-split is[B] far [/B]more useful than coil cut, and there's no parts needed, just wire the tone pot to be a 2nd volume control, but for one coil only. That way you can blend the sounds of both HB and single, in any increment you want. I use it to add treble and thin out mids in my neck HB's. Problem with coil cut is it's all-or-nothing, no in between.

By simply wiring for independent volumes and spin-a-split, you can blend PU's and coils in a large number of configurations. If you want to add phase too, just swap out a pot for a push-pull.

One of the most versatile wirings is the Jimmy Page 4 push-system, gives you 21 sounds. Don't if you want to do that much wiring.
 
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Hmmm... for blues, I'd lean to out of phase, so you can hit the BB, Peter Green, etc. tones.


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there is definatly an advantage to a MV as opposed to two independent volumes.

I second the out of phase PG vote. especially with a blend knob and MV!! not sure if the standard switch will work for this? you may need a DPDT?
 
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audiocheck said:
there is definatly an advantage to a MV as opposed to two independent volumes.
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What advantage? Independent volume controls give the ability to blend PU's in many different increments. It's basically two blend knobs. Far more tones than you can get otherwise.
 
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I'm not sure if there's a way to no load the bass cut. I didn't like how there was always some bass being taken out even on 10. I would say master volume and tone, and 2 50k spin a splits. Or 2 volumes, master tone, and a master 50k spin a split.

Or you could go berserk and go all concentric pots: 2 vol, 2 tone, 2 bass, 2 spin o splits. Haha jk.
 
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Chris0709 said:
Hi all, first time posting so go easy on me!
Here's what I'm looking at;. Picked up a future tribute for a project, hate the quick connect systems and am planning on gutting and rewiring the whole thing. I have a pair of pearly Gates to throw in, and am trying to decide the control acheme want.
What I'm thinking right now is this: PTB control through a master volume. That leaves one open pot, which I want to do as a blend knob. I got it worked out but it leaves the toggle as unnecessary. The question then becomes what to do with that space? Do I do a phase switch? Any other ideas? Alternate wiring schemes or ideas on what to do with the toggle would be appreciated, the goal being as much versitility as possible. Not my main axe so mostly concerned with getting some cool tone tinkering worked in.
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Depending on what you mean by blend, there are no long-shaft pan/blend pots that fit a Les Paul type guitar. Well, there are 25 of them in the world - because I had to custom order them. But other than that....
 
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My LP/SG has some really great pickups, with a volume and tone for each pickup, with a three way switch. There are a plethora of great tones available.
 
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The lack of long shaft blend Pots checks out which is a bummer. Think I'll go independent volumes with ptb set up, possibly work a phase reverse in there with a dpdt
 
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Chris0709 said:
The lack of long shaft blend Pots checks out which is a bummer. Think I'll go independent volumes with ptb set up, possibly work a phase reverse in there with a dpdt
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I had phase reverse on a push-pull tone pot. Worked just fine.


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Scallop the inside so you can get 4 concentrics in it.
Wire each coil to its own Volume and Tone.

How you get them to the output jack is your problem :lol:
 
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You could use an audio transformer for a master mid cut. That would kind of fit in with the PTB.
 
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A 4 knob LP is 2 knobs too much for me. They are already too far out of the way for me.
 
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