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martinsixstringcustoms
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I've got a Fender Mexi Strat and I'm considering having a LSR Roller Nut installed. Anyone have any feedback on these? Does it help tuning stability or is it hype?
Thanks!
Thanks!
rspst14
Tone Cat
Re: LSR Roller Nut
Never used one myself, but you might be better off with a standard graphite nut, as I've heard the LSR roller nuts can have a negative impact on your tone. They do help tuning stability, but I would go with graphite. I'm only repeating what I've heard from several others who have tried them, so take it for what it's worth.
Ryan
Never used one myself, but you might be better off with a standard graphite nut, as I've heard the LSR roller nuts can have a negative impact on your tone. They do help tuning stability, but I would go with graphite. I'm only repeating what I've heard from several others who have tried them, so take it for what it's worth.
Ryan
Cory_Dylan
New member
Re: LSR Roller Nut
i always just thought they were for reducing string breakage for people who use trems... but that's what graphite is for? :dunno:
i always just thought they were for reducing string breakage for people who use trems... but that's what graphite is for? :dunno:
Robert S.
Super Moderator
Re: LSR Roller Nut
I have a JB loaded Strat with a Shaller Floyd, LSR nut and Sperzal locking tuners. While all that extra steel does change the tone somewhat, I don't find the impact to be all that detrimental to tone. It is more different than bad.
Unless you are looking for a dead nuts vintage Strat tone, it wont matter.
I've used graphite nuts, stock nuts and every lube I could find and sooner or later even the best of burnished composite nuts start hanging up sooner or later. Personally I cannot handle a guitar that travels even a couple of percent up or down when Im playing. Nothing is worse that throwing out a quick line with a couple of bends and then coming down on a guitar that is flat, or leaning on the trem and coming up sharp. I had this issue with both my PRS CU 24 and my Strat. The Strat got the LSR and the PRS got sold. I refuse to own and play a guitar that won't stay in tune.
The Strat will stay in tune for days and will stay close for weeks with the Shaller/LSR/Sperzal set-up, and I haven't have to do any tech work on the guitar for over two years.
It's a killer sounding guitar with a nice thick tone and plenty of sustain. The last 5 or so guys that have played it have offered to buy it so it can't be all that bad.
I have a JB loaded Strat with a Shaller Floyd, LSR nut and Sperzal locking tuners. While all that extra steel does change the tone somewhat, I don't find the impact to be all that detrimental to tone. It is more different than bad.
Unless you are looking for a dead nuts vintage Strat tone, it wont matter.
I've used graphite nuts, stock nuts and every lube I could find and sooner or later even the best of burnished composite nuts start hanging up sooner or later. Personally I cannot handle a guitar that travels even a couple of percent up or down when Im playing. Nothing is worse that throwing out a quick line with a couple of bends and then coming down on a guitar that is flat, or leaning on the trem and coming up sharp. I had this issue with both my PRS CU 24 and my Strat. The Strat got the LSR and the PRS got sold. I refuse to own and play a guitar that won't stay in tune.
The Strat will stay in tune for days and will stay close for weeks with the Shaller/LSR/Sperzal set-up, and I haven't have to do any tech work on the guitar for over two years.
It's a killer sounding guitar with a nice thick tone and plenty of sustain. The last 5 or so guys that have played it have offered to buy it so it can't be all that bad.
Norman_T
New member
Re: LSR Roller Nut
I have found that when playing these guitars they do hold the tuning a lot better and will allow you to do all the dive bombing etc and will retain your tuning. They do however rob your tone and you will have to compensate by putting in more EQ on your amp(s). I have also heard that people who have retro-fitted these on guitars have been disappointed with them and gone back to to the originals.
A properly cut graphite nut, lubed and intonated guitar will be sufficent for most people unless you are a dive bomber. However even for these guitars they will still need to be regularly serviced and maintained.
I have found that when playing these guitars they do hold the tuning a lot better and will allow you to do all the dive bombing etc and will retain your tuning. They do however rob your tone and you will have to compensate by putting in more EQ on your amp(s). I have also heard that people who have retro-fitted these on guitars have been disappointed with them and gone back to to the originals.
A properly cut graphite nut, lubed and intonated guitar will be sufficent for most people unless you are a dive bomber. However even for these guitars they will still need to be regularly serviced and maintained.
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martinsixstringcustoms
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Re: LSR Roller Nut
Thanks alot for the input guys! Decisions....Decisions.....
Thanks alot for the input guys! Decisions....Decisions.....
beandip
Frito's Better Half
Re: LSR Roller Nut
I cut all my nuts for my guitars. Mostly I use bone, and I spend alot of time getting it right. I still stand by at my point that a properly cut nut, no matter what material, will stay in tune, even with the most dramatic whammy tricks. If you want to get a nut that stay's in tune, and dosnt really mess with your tone, check out the slipstone derlin nuts from stew mac.
I cut all my nuts for my guitars. Mostly I use bone, and I spend alot of time getting it right. I still stand by at my point that a properly cut nut, no matter what material, will stay in tune, even with the most dramatic whammy tricks. If you want to get a nut that stay's in tune, and dosnt really mess with your tone, check out the slipstone derlin nuts from stew mac.
msplines
New member
Re: LSR Roller Nut
Mine is on a Wilkinson/Sperzel loaded set neck and works really well, stays in perfectly in tune and doesn't rob the tone noticeably (because it's properly seated/fitted - this is essential).
Talking of fitting, don't forget that you will have to trim the end of the fretboard so that the strings sit in the right place if it's not a slotted nut type guitar. If it's a slotted nut type, then you may have to route out the channel to fit the roller nut.
Like all mechanical devices; it needs a tiny bit of lube from time to time.
I also have a graph tech nut on my other trem guitar, and this also works very well in terms of tuning stability, but the tone is thinner on the bass strings.
Mine is on a Wilkinson/Sperzel loaded set neck and works really well, stays in perfectly in tune and doesn't rob the tone noticeably (because it's properly seated/fitted - this is essential).
Talking of fitting, don't forget that you will have to trim the end of the fretboard so that the strings sit in the right place if it's not a slotted nut type guitar. If it's a slotted nut type, then you may have to route out the channel to fit the roller nut.
Like all mechanical devices; it needs a tiny bit of lube from time to time.
I also have a graph tech nut on my other trem guitar, and this also works very well in terms of tuning stability, but the tone is thinner on the bass strings.
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Re: LSR Roller Nut
I haven't used an LSR nut but a properly cut and set up Fender nut should suffice for all but heavy tremolo work. I'm not sure of the quality of the Fender Mexi strat nut but if it is anywhere near as good as the MIA strat nut you would be good to go.
Another way to answer your question is that A well cut and set up nut will absolutley improve your tuning stability. That is NOT hype , it is a proven fact. Maybe try going in that direction before deciding on a LSR nut (this option is cheaper and doesn't permanently mod your guitar like the LSR) Depending on the amount of trem use you do you may be well satisfied.
I haven't used an LSR nut but a properly cut and set up Fender nut should suffice for all but heavy tremolo work. I'm not sure of the quality of the Fender Mexi strat nut but if it is anywhere near as good as the MIA strat nut you would be good to go.
Another way to answer your question is that A well cut and set up nut will absolutley improve your tuning stability. That is NOT hype , it is a proven fact. Maybe try going in that direction before deciding on a LSR nut (this option is cheaper and doesn't permanently mod your guitar like the LSR) Depending on the amount of trem use you do you may be well satisfied.
