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Funkfingers
Guest
Do bassists give a pig's burp for pickup magnet swapping?
Chris of Arabia
Desert RATT
Re: Magnet swaps
Apparently not...
Apparently not...
CTN
The Drama Dude
Re: Magnet swaps
nobody swaps out polepiece magnets anyway.
and for the P/J/whatever pickups have a big honkin' chunk of ceramic underneath, they don't sell that size of ceramic/alnico mag anyway so it's a null point.
If the mags were available and if the pickups were as easy to swap mags in as humbuckers are, then I'm sure at least a couple of people here would do it...assuming they ever played anything.
nobody swaps out polepiece magnets anyway.
and for the P/J/whatever pickups have a big honkin' chunk of ceramic underneath, they don't sell that size of ceramic/alnico mag anyway so it's a null point.
If the mags were available and if the pickups were as easy to swap mags in as humbuckers are, then I'm sure at least a couple of people here would do it...assuming they ever played anything.
trevorus
Modsterbator
Re: Magnet swaps
No. Not generally. The construction of pickups is generally the classic way of magnet pole pieces with the wire wrapped directly on them. That's for the good pickups. If you want different magnets, you get different pickups. The pickups that have ceramic magnets underneath are often so cheap that they get replaced with proper pickups anyway.
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No. Not generally. The construction of pickups is generally the classic way of magnet pole pieces with the wire wrapped directly on them. That's for the good pickups. If you want different magnets, you get different pickups. The pickups that have ceramic magnets underneath are often so cheap that they get replaced with proper pickups anyway.
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Funkfingers
Guest
Re: Magnet swaps
Thanks, guys.
The question was not entirely serious. Just a desperate effort to keep this forum room from dying on its arse. (Check the frequency of new threads now compared to when Scott started The Bassment!)
One good thing is that the Magnet Swap Mafia does not seem to frequent this forum room.
Thanks, guys.
The question was not entirely serious. Just a desperate effort to keep this forum room from dying on its arse. (Check the frequency of new threads now compared to when Scott started The Bassment!)
One good thing is that the Magnet Swap Mafia does not seem to frequent this forum room.
speed2dirt
Butterball
Re: Magnet swaps
I'd also add that a good portion of bass amps have active EQs, so it really makes the subtleties less noticeable. Where as, guitar players use very traditional amps that mag swaps make a bigger difference.
I'd also add that a good portion of bass amps have active EQs, so it really makes the subtleties less noticeable. Where as, guitar players use very traditional amps that mag swaps make a bigger difference.
trevorus
Modsterbator
Re: Magnet swaps
If you go over to talkbass, you'll see a ton of cork sniffing. It's more in active preamps, and pickup swaps. Tone woods and NUTS as well. My favorite bass, a USA Reverend bass, had tiny cheap pots, and ceramic magnet pickups. I changed the pots to nice ones, but the pickups are fine. I may try some nice stuff eventually, but I play guitar way more these days.
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If you go over to talkbass, you'll see a ton of cork sniffing. It's more in active preamps, and pickup swaps. Tone woods and NUTS as well. My favorite bass, a USA Reverend bass, had tiny cheap pots, and ceramic magnet pickups. I changed the pots to nice ones, but the pickups are fine. I may try some nice stuff eventually, but I play guitar way more these days.
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Johnny the Kid
Shaunofthedeadologist
Re: Magnet swaps
I love the ceramic pups that I put into my bass. My SUB Ray 5 has had all of it's electronics replaced with an EMG Active set, and I know you guys said that Actives tend to take the subtleties out of the equation, but I still think that it has a great tone.
I love the ceramic pups that I put into my bass. My SUB Ray 5 has had all of it's electronics replaced with an EMG Active set, and I know you guys said that Actives tend to take the subtleties out of the equation, but I still think that it has a great tone.
Myaccount876
Amira-Maker
Re: Magnet swaps
It doesn't happen here because blueman335 and Lt. Kojak don't play bass.
It doesn't happen here because blueman335 and Lt. Kojak don't play bass.
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Funkfingers
Guest
Re: Magnet swaps
Shh!
Shh!
blueman335
Mojo's Minions
Re: Magnet swaps
Actually I started off playing bass in high school and still do a little. I'll have to let Kojak know about this part of the forum.
Actually I started off playing bass in high school and still do a little. I'll have to let Kojak know about this part of the forum.
kilphody
Upstate Highlander
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Funkfingers
Guest
Re: Magnet swaps
In fairness, blueman335 does put a lot of effort into testing different magnet combinations. Unfortunately, describing sound in words is notoriously difficult. Sound clips take time to produce and, of course, they are only truly relevant for the player and equipment used to record them.
I have had perfectly satisfactory dealings with Pepe (LtKojak). The magnets that he supplied to me did exactly what he said they would. The problem is that his comments are only consistently applicable to the magnets that he supplies. For commercial reasons, the precise source of the magnets remains shrouded in mystery.
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@uOpt. The Stingray Bass pickup consists of two single coils held together underneath the plastic cover. The pole pieces are rod magnets, set through the bobbin forms, much like a Fender Jazz Bass pickup. To change the magnets would involve a full coil rewind.
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The closest that I came to a magnet swap for a bass pickup was earlier this year. I decided to try SD/Basslines AJJ-2 Lightnin' Rod active pickups in a fretless Squier VM Jazz Bass. I swiftly concluded that they were too "polite". I missed the growl of the stock Duncan Designed passive single coils. That is what is in the instrument to this day. It records very well.
In fairness, blueman335 does put a lot of effort into testing different magnet combinations. Unfortunately, describing sound in words is notoriously difficult. Sound clips take time to produce and, of course, they are only truly relevant for the player and equipment used to record them.
I have had perfectly satisfactory dealings with Pepe (LtKojak). The magnets that he supplied to me did exactly what he said they would. The problem is that his comments are only consistently applicable to the magnets that he supplies. For commercial reasons, the precise source of the magnets remains shrouded in mystery.
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@uOpt. The Stingray Bass pickup consists of two single coils held together underneath the plastic cover. The pole pieces are rod magnets, set through the bobbin forms, much like a Fender Jazz Bass pickup. To change the magnets would involve a full coil rewind.
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The closest that I came to a magnet swap for a bass pickup was earlier this year. I decided to try SD/Basslines AJJ-2 Lightnin' Rod active pickups in a fretless Squier VM Jazz Bass. I swiftly concluded that they were too "polite". I missed the growl of the stock Duncan Designed passive single coils. That is what is in the instrument to this day. It records very well.
Re: Magnet swaps
AJJ-2, tame? Huh....maybe that set put all the rude into the APB-2, gearing for a rude/polite PJ config (forgetting to bother doing an evil diff neck pup for a JJ layout)? Cuz I had a P Lightnin Rod, and that thing was loud, raunchy, and brütal like nothing else.
Btw, im serious not teasing. Similar experience with APH Blackouts for Bass 5's, the neck pup was niiiice, while the bridge made me wondet why I ever paid for it...maybe that sort of balance, fearsome neck and polite bridge, is the official SD approach for active bass sets?
AJJ-2, tame? Huh....maybe that set put all the rude into the APB-2, gearing for a rude/polite PJ config (forgetting to bother doing an evil diff neck pup for a JJ layout)? Cuz I had a P Lightnin Rod, and that thing was loud, raunchy, and brütal like nothing else.
Btw, im serious not teasing. Similar experience with APH Blackouts for Bass 5's, the neck pup was niiiice, while the bridge made me wondet why I ever paid for it...maybe that sort of balance, fearsome neck and polite bridge, is the official SD approach for active bass sets?
Myaccount876
Amira-Maker
Re: Magnet swaps
In all honesty and joking aside, he does contribute quite a bit to the forum and I'd say he generally knows what he's talking about.
Pepe also contributes quite a bit, I just have had some disagreements with him.
In all honesty and joking aside, he does contribute quite a bit to the forum and I'd say he generally knows what he's talking about.
Pepe also contributes quite a bit, I just have had some disagreements with him.
blueman335
Mojo's Minions
Re: Magnet swaps
Pepe's been wrong a few times (who hasn't?), but his heart is in the right place, and he's helped many members over the years. Being a luthier, he has some great experience to share. I've definitely learned things from him.
Pepe's been wrong a few times (who hasn't?), but his heart is in the right place, and he's helped many members over the years. Being a luthier, he has some great experience to share. I've definitely learned things from him.
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Funkfingers
Guest
Re: Magnet swaps
I have a P-style Lightnin' Rod pickup in a Yamaha RBX200F bass. This instrument wiped the floor with my Fender fretless Precision until I yanked out the EMG-P pickup and tried the Bartolini 8S from one of my project basses. The EMG-P had plenty of bottom end power and high end clarity. Unfortunately, what a fretless especially needs is midrange.
Are BOs for Bass calibrated for neck and bridge positions?
I have a P-style Lightnin' Rod pickup in a Yamaha RBX200F bass. This instrument wiped the floor with my Fender fretless Precision until I yanked out the EMG-P pickup and tried the Bartolini 8S from one of my project basses. The EMG-P had plenty of bottom end power and high end clarity. Unfortunately, what a fretless especially needs is midrange.
Are BOs for Bass calibrated for neck and bridge positions?
Re: Magnet swaps
Its a set of two different pups. Can be bought as a B+N set or alone (B or N)... If you can go either way for same price, probably best get separates (more free pots afaik - the 3 in the BN set isnt enough for most basses with the EMG 40 routs or the couple millimetres bigger OEM ibanez/mightymite DX5/ADX5 routs).
Also, seriously recommend trying the N version alone first... Or pairing it with something else in bridge. EMG 40dc maybe?
PS for four string, afaik, its sized EMG35/mightymite ADX
Its a set of two different pups. Can be bought as a B+N set or alone (B or N)... If you can go either way for same price, probably best get separates (more free pots afaik - the 3 in the BN set isnt enough for most basses with the EMG 40 routs or the couple millimetres bigger OEM ibanez/mightymite DX5/ADX5 routs).
Also, seriously recommend trying the N version alone first... Or pairing it with something else in bridge. EMG 40dc maybe?
PS for four string, afaik, its sized EMG35/mightymite ADX