Magnets? II? V? VIII?

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I see a lot of discussion about magnets being swapped out. All other things being equal (same pickup)... what is the tonal differences between each?
 
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There's a nice post about Alnico II, III, IV and V at the BK Forum, I hope it's not a problem that I'm quoting it here:
Tim Mills said:
Magnets do add to the character of a pickup although it must be understood that a magnet doesn't have a sound on it's own, it contributes by the way it accentuates certain frequencies as current is induced in the coil windings.
Alnico II is the softest and generally has a smooth bass and treble although this is more pronounced the hotter the windings get.
Alnico III is very transparent, low output and clean,sounds great for rounded fat jazz applications-typical of '50s tone.
Alnico IV is probably the best vintage tone IMHO(for humbuckers) (...) The tone of AIV is balanced and extremely organic, it produces the most authentic vintage tone and sits better in slightly hotter vintage winds than AII which tends to get very soft in the bass and highs if used incorrectly.
Finally Alnico V is the hottest producing more highs and lows, great for rock applications or where power and cut are important.
(...)
Changing magnets in a humbucker can give dramatic results, you soon find the ones that really don't sit right and others that are head and shoulders better.Obviously you can't swap out single coil magnets as they're integral to the coil form.
 
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Re: Magnets? II? V? VIII?

Hi

I had similar question a while ago, and here's the thoughts and opinions from people here who responded.....

https://forum.seymourduncan.com/showthread.php?t=106953


BTW, i used A3 in my neck pickup and very quickly changed it to A5, which turned out to be ideal. But as mentioned in the Bareknuckles info above, it is going to vary from pickup to pickup, so ultimately one probably has to experiment a bit, but all this information is a great help and will help to narrow the field a lot.
 
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Hi crusty, I didnt like the A3 in neck too. Too thin. But i went to a A4 since a full A5 and a degaussed A5 were too bass heavy in neck.
BTW My brother-in-law is moving to Melbourne to work there for 5 years or more. His family will follow at begin of July. We all are anxious how it will be to live in Melbourne for him and his family. Greetings!
 
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Hi guys

yes, my mistake was assuming A3 was a little towards the A5 qualities, but not as much as A4. As you can see in the responses i got to my thread on this subject, A3 is actually more like 'A1' or 'A1 1/2' ....very weak, and in the 59/Jazz hybrid i built for the neck of my Hamer Studio, it proved to be kinda odd....REAL chimey top end, and very flubby in the bass. I would probably have tried A4 but it takes a little while to get them from the USA to here in Melbourne, Australia, and i was super-keen to get a result, so i went with the A5 which i had. It sounds great. (The Hamer probably doesn't suffer from the 'too much bass on the neck pickup' syndrome that seems common with Les Pauls).
I can't recommend this hybrid enough to anyone who has a great piece of wood and really wants to hear everything. (The only problem is, it tends to make you play very little....just play a chord or a note and then sit there listening to the complexity and harmonic content, and 'bloom'......then finally you get around to playing another note or chord.....hehe).


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Please excuse me here as i go off-topic to answer the second part of Hamerfan's post above about the city where i live.......

Hamerfan....... apart from the fact that your brother-in law and his family will arrive here in winter (gets cold, but no snow or those kind of low temperatures)....it is likely they will love it. It was voted the world's most liveable city a few years ago. I went out for a while here with a woman from the US, she had travelled a lot and told me that Melbourne reminded her a lot of Hawaii, which i thought was very interesting. It is a city of close to 4 million, it's pretty cosmopolitan and a friendly place, easy-going and a lot of great stuff happens here, including plenty of international stuff coming through (music and entertainment, sports stars, art, culture, etc.). It gets pretty warm in summer, but hey, this is Australia.....it's interesting to note that this country is about the same size as North America, but with a tenth of the population (most of us live near the coasts in the cities) and there are large areas of desert and 'bush'. We don't all go around saying 'G'day Maate!' either ! Or wrestling crocodiles for that matter, hehe.

I'd say....if you exchange the word 'anxious' in your post for the word 'enthusiastic' you'll all be set up nicely for the experience.....maybe you could get over to visit him during his stay, i think you'd enjoy it (except that no-one was selling US made Hamers here, i had to buy mine from your country, but i believe someone is trying to distibute them here now). There is little happening in the world that we cannot access. It's a great place....i could be anywhere and i chose to be here.......(smile)
 
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