Make your bass sound like a rhythm guitar and bass at the same time
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Falloffthebonetone
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Re: Make your bass sound like a rhythm guitar and bass at the same time
Distortion/overdrive/fuzz and gobs of midrange. Maybe an octave pedal or harmonizer. That and getting what you're playing grounded on the A string to help cut a bit more while being not so conservative with what you're playing. Brighter strings help too.
Look for dirt pedals that retain low end and have tweakable eq to really add some midrange attack when you need to.
Adjust your technique too to let notes ring out a bit more, hit the strings a bit harder, don't feel shy about using 2 or 3 note chords, etc... that's half the battle.
If the guitars are soloing, it's harder to drown them out so you can be pretty liberal with what you do.
Distortion/overdrive/fuzz and gobs of midrange. Maybe an octave pedal or harmonizer. That and getting what you're playing grounded on the A string to help cut a bit more while being not so conservative with what you're playing. Brighter strings help too.
Look for dirt pedals that retain low end and have tweakable eq to really add some midrange attack when you need to.
Adjust your technique too to let notes ring out a bit more, hit the strings a bit harder, don't feel shy about using 2 or 3 note chords, etc... that's half the battle.
If the guitars are soloing, it's harder to drown them out so you can be pretty liberal with what you do.
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Myaccount876
Amira-Maker
Re: Make your bass sound like a rhythm guitar and bass at the same time
Have the bass player play chords with a bit of fuzz/OD, maybe an octave pedal, and EQ it to have a lot of low mids. Playing harder also helps. Bass chording is one of my favorite techniques.
Have the bass player play chords with a bit of fuzz/OD, maybe an octave pedal, and EQ it to have a lot of low mids. Playing harder also helps. Bass chording is one of my favorite techniques.
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Funkfingers
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Re: Make your bass sound like a rhythm guitar and bass at the same time
Sonically speaking, there is always the Billy Sheehan approach. Two pickups, two signal paths, two amplifiers, one clean, one set to provide da fuzz. Blend to taste, using instrument volume pots.
Playing-wise, think Claypool. Alternate low notes with double stops played on the upper strings. Almost like a left hand stride piano part.
Sonically speaking, there is always the Billy Sheehan approach. Two pickups, two signal paths, two amplifiers, one clean, one set to provide da fuzz. Blend to taste, using instrument volume pots.
Playing-wise, think Claypool. Alternate low notes with double stops played on the upper strings. Almost like a left hand stride piano part.
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Funkfingers
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Re: Make your bass sound like a rhythm guitar and bass at the same time
Chapman Stick does not sound like rhythm guitar. More like Höhner Clavinet.
Chapman Stick does not sound like rhythm guitar. More like Höhner Clavinet.
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Funkfingers
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Re: Make your bass sound like a rhythm guitar and bass at the same time
With the Melody string action jacked way up and the string mutes removed, perhaps?
With the Melody string action jacked way up and the string mutes removed, perhaps?
DrNewcenstein
He Did the Monster Mash
Re: Make your bass sound like a rhythm guitar and bass at the same time
Depends on whether or not you want the bass and rhythm guitar to play identical notes, which for a lot of metal, this is the case. Although you get a more dynamic rhythm sound if the bass is doubling the kick and the rhythm guitar is incorporating palm mutes and sustained chords/8ths, rather than just all palm mutes.
Otherwise, look into a harmonizer and create scales in it that shift the harmony down or up within those scales.
Depends on whether or not you want the bass and rhythm guitar to play identical notes, which for a lot of metal, this is the case. Although you get a more dynamic rhythm sound if the bass is doubling the kick and the rhythm guitar is incorporating palm mutes and sustained chords/8ths, rather than just all palm mutes.
Otherwise, look into a harmonizer and create scales in it that shift the harmony down or up within those scales.
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Funkfingers
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Re: Make your bass sound like a rhythm guitar and bass at the same time
Eight string à la John Paul Jones.
Eight string à la John Paul Jones.
Johnny the Kid
Shaunofthedeadologist
Re: Make your bass sound like a rhythm guitar and bass at the same time
Get an Octavio pedal. From your bass effects pedals split the signal sending one side into the Octavio and then to a guitar amp while sending the other side into your regular bass amp. Profit.
Get an Octavio pedal. From your bass effects pedals split the signal sending one side into the Octavio and then to a guitar amp while sending the other side into your regular bass amp. Profit.
Re: Make your bass sound like a rhythm guitar and bass at the same time
This sounds awesome.
This sounds awesome.
koshikas
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Re: Make your bass sound like a rhythm guitar and bass at the same time
the ideal sound i've heard is what bryan beller gets here;
https://youtu.be/qfNUY8IrJi8?t=1m12s
the ideal sound i've heard is what bryan beller gets here;
https://youtu.be/qfNUY8IrJi8?t=1m12s
Aasinsilta
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Re: Make your bass sound like a rhythm guitar and bass at the same time
EHX POG/Micro POG and an overdrive pedal, maybe a distortion pedal if you need it. Are you planning to run this bass through one amp or split it into a guitar and bass amp?
EHX POG/Micro POG and an overdrive pedal, maybe a distortion pedal if you need it. Are you planning to run this bass through one amp or split it into a guitar and bass amp?
marcboomer
Bass Player @ Seymour Duncan
Re: Make your bass sound like a rhythm guitar and bass at the same time
Here's what ya need> A Fission> http://www.fishman.com/product/fission-bass-powerchord-fx-pedal
Here's what ya need> A Fission> http://www.fishman.com/product/fission-bass-powerchord-fx-pedal
Re: Make your bass sound like a rhythm guitar and bass at the same time
No, i ment as in the me (lead guitarist) will be soloing in dual harmony with the rhythm guitarist, so hes playing the lower notes of a minor 3rd or watever... and the bass will take over the rhythm while we are doing that harmony...
No, i ment as in the me (lead guitarist) will be soloing in dual harmony with the rhythm guitarist, so hes playing the lower notes of a minor 3rd or watever... and the bass will take over the rhythm while we are doing that harmony...
Falloffthebonetone
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Re: Make your bass sound like a rhythm guitar and bass at the same time
Partially my fault for hastily reading the first post.
However, all of the advice so far still applies. I don't think anyone here was giving advice for a guitar player.
Partially my fault for hastily reading the first post.
However, all of the advice so far still applies. I don't think anyone here was giving advice for a guitar player.
Johnny the Kid
Shaunofthedeadologist
Re: Make your bass sound like a rhythm guitar and bass at the same time
Pretty much does what I was suggesting and more. This solves your problems.
Pretty much does what I was suggesting and more. This solves your problems.
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Funkfingers
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Re: Make your bass sound like a rhythm guitar and bass at the same time
I just watched (and listened) to the Fishman Fission video demo. There is a detectable tracking lag.
I just watched (and listened) to the Fishman Fission video demo. There is a detectable tracking lag.
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