Reckless Abandon
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How can i do it? I never pull back and I want the sustain back.
Making a Floyd Rose not Float
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Re: Making a Floyd Rose not Float
I block mine from any up pull with a piece of hard maple or ash works as well
you set the bridge so it is level(parallel to the body) then cut a piece of wood and glue it to the trem cavtiy so the trem block rest's against it whe not it use
not only does the overall tone become stronger,but it adds low end,sustain and better tuning.
eddie van heineken has done this for years :burnout:
I block mine from any up pull with a piece of hard maple or ash works as well
you set the bridge so it is level(parallel to the body) then cut a piece of wood and glue it to the trem cavtiy so the trem block rest's against it whe not it use
not only does the overall tone become stronger,but it adds low end,sustain and better tuning.
eddie van heineken has done this for years :burnout:
rspst14
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Re: Making a Floyd Rose not Float
You could just tighten the spring tension. In most cases, blocking the Floyd with a piece of wood isn't necessary, although some people say it improves tuning stability and tone. I use 10 gauge strings and three trem springs screwed in until they're about half an inch from the body. The trem rests flat on the body, and it doesn't pull up. The tone and sustain is great, and I have no problems with tuning stability. I've never tried to float a trem, I think it's a waste of time. If you want to raise the pitch, just bend the string.
Ryan
You could just tighten the spring tension. In most cases, blocking the Floyd with a piece of wood isn't necessary, although some people say it improves tuning stability and tone. I use 10 gauge strings and three trem springs screwed in until they're about half an inch from the body. The trem rests flat on the body, and it doesn't pull up. The tone and sustain is great, and I have no problems with tuning stability. I've never tried to float a trem, I think it's a waste of time. If you want to raise the pitch, just bend the string.
Ryan
Reckless Abandon
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Re: Making a Floyd Rose not Float
thanks
But won't my strings buzz. It seems like it would touch the frets. I may not have understood you corectly though. I cannot figure out how to raise each string without using the placed on the side of the floyd.rspst14 said:
thanks
some_dude
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Re: Making a Floyd Rose not Float
First off, I'm assuming you have a Floyd with a route under it so you can bend up.
If you're going to block it without using a piece of wood, you need to screw the bridge studs right down so the Floyd sits flat in the bottom of the route (otherwise you're bridge will sit at a wierd angle, be funny to play, and hard to intonate), then screw the claw (the thing the springs are attached to) all the way in to tighten it down. Lastly, you need to remove the shims from the neck pocket (or adjust the neck angle screw if your guitars equiped with one) to re-align the neck with the saddles so the strings don't fret out on the last fret.
Or, you could just stick a piece of wood in there and tighted the screws.
Reckless Abandon said:
First off, I'm assuming you have a Floyd with a route under it so you can bend up.
If you're going to block it without using a piece of wood, you need to screw the bridge studs right down so the Floyd sits flat in the bottom of the route (otherwise you're bridge will sit at a wierd angle, be funny to play, and hard to intonate), then screw the claw (the thing the springs are attached to) all the way in to tighten it down. Lastly, you need to remove the shims from the neck pocket (or adjust the neck angle screw if your guitars equiped with one) to re-align the neck with the saddles so the strings don't fret out on the last fret.
Or, you could just stick a piece of wood in there and tighted the screws.
rspst14
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Re: Making a Floyd Rose not Float
I'm not sure what type of guitar or trem you have, but I never have trouble with mine. Technically, if I pull up on it, I can raise the pitch about a quarter step or so, but the bridge is basically set for downward use only. I have the action adjusted so that it's low, but comfortable. I use three springs, and it stays in tune for weeks. I can divebomb all day, and my Peterson strobe tuner still shows my tuning as dead on accurate.
Ryan
I'm not sure what type of guitar or trem you have, but I never have trouble with mine. Technically, if I pull up on it, I can raise the pitch about a quarter step or so, but the bridge is basically set for downward use only. I have the action adjusted so that it's low, but comfortable. I use three springs, and it stays in tune for weeks. I can divebomb all day, and my Peterson strobe tuner still shows my tuning as dead on accurate.
Ryan
Reckless Abandon
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Re: Making a Floyd Rose not Float
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I don't have trouble with it I just wanted to have a bit more sustain. So putting a peice of wood under it will do the trick?rspst14 said:
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rspst14
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Re: Making a Floyd Rose not Float
It might. I've found that setting it for downward use only is good enough, I've never felt the need to block it. The important thing is to make sure the bridge rests on the body, rather than floating. When it floats, it's held in place by the opposing tension between the strings and trem springs. It doesn't actually touch the face of the guitar. If you set it so that it's flush with the body, it can't be pulled up, and you'll generally get a thicker tone with better sustain.
Ryan
Reckless Abandon said:
It might. I've found that setting it for downward use only is good enough, I've never felt the need to block it. The important thing is to make sure the bridge rests on the body, rather than floating. When it floats, it's held in place by the opposing tension between the strings and trem springs. It doesn't actually touch the face of the guitar. If you set it so that it's flush with the body, it can't be pulled up, and you'll generally get a thicker tone with better sustain.
Ryan
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worst thing i ever did to my floyd. didn't work worth ****.Spark said:
Reckless Abandon
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Re: Making a Floyd Rose not Float
I get I will mess with it. I just hope my action will be high enough.
thanks for everyones help!
I get I will mess with it. I just hope my action will be high enough.
thanks for everyones help!
Zerberus
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Re: Making a Floyd Rose not Float
?????????? What´s with all this height changing, neck reshiimming and such? Am I losing My mind??? :smack:
If you re-shim / unshim the neck, you will alter it´s angle, causing you to redo the setup, but more importantly it will CHANGE THE TONE. Angling a neck farther back increases high end response and presence, farther forward the opposite.
BTW,@ "just tighten the springs": The Floyd has to be recessed already, otherwise it wouldn´t need to be blocked but would already rest flat on the body (or be high up above it like on ´80s Soloists, but the effect is the same). If you just tighten the springs, you´ll change the bridge angle to a point where the guitar will likely become unplayable.
What to do: Cut a hardwood block (alder, ash or mahogany work great) to fit between the front(front = "neckwards") edge of the trem block and the front edge of the trem rout. Glue it in place on the cavity side only, glue a piece of felt to the trem side (otherwise you´ll hear a "clock" when you let the bar snap back). You can increase the spring tension a bit if you like, half a turn per screw should be more than enough.
If you measured right, your bridge should now sit firmly at the ideal angle with or without strings, and be absolutely stable towards up pulling and palm muting, and the tone should fatten a bit with a tad more sustain
?????????? What´s with all this height changing, neck reshiimming and such? Am I losing My mind??? :smack:
If you re-shim / unshim the neck, you will alter it´s angle, causing you to redo the setup, but more importantly it will CHANGE THE TONE. Angling a neck farther back increases high end response and presence, farther forward the opposite.
BTW,@ "just tighten the springs": The Floyd has to be recessed already, otherwise it wouldn´t need to be blocked but would already rest flat on the body (or be high up above it like on ´80s Soloists, but the effect is the same). If you just tighten the springs, you´ll change the bridge angle to a point where the guitar will likely become unplayable.
What to do: Cut a hardwood block (alder, ash or mahogany work great) to fit between the front(front = "neckwards") edge of the trem block and the front edge of the trem rout. Glue it in place on the cavity side only, glue a piece of felt to the trem side (otherwise you´ll hear a "clock" when you let the bar snap back). You can increase the spring tension a bit if you like, half a turn per screw should be more than enough.
If you measured right, your bridge should now sit firmly at the ideal angle with or without strings, and be absolutely stable towards up pulling and palm muting, and the tone should fatten a bit with a tad more sustain
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3 cent hero
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mine didn't ever do a "zero return" it was always either way flat or way sharp.JohnJohn said:
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yepZerberus said:
Zerberus
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Yep, then that´s exactly what the problem was.
The extra grease causes a vacuum to be formed around the small stop washer when it moves. The tremsetter needs to be disassembled and cleaned. I know that a few years back they wanted to switch to a carbon fiber washer which was supposed to alleviate thios, but I don´t know if they ever did it. :13:
3 cent hero said:
Yep, then that´s exactly what the problem was.
The extra grease causes a vacuum to be formed around the small stop washer when it moves. The tremsetter needs to be disassembled and cleaned. I know that a few years back they wanted to switch to a carbon fiber washer which was supposed to alleviate thios, but I don´t know if they ever did it. :13:
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