Man, the only thing I hate more than the honeymoon period...

[Virtual Kevorkian]

...is when it finally starts coming to an end, and you've had it happen so many times that you can feel it coming.


You know, you get a new piece of gear and you absolutely. positively. love. it.

And then... two weeks, three weeks, a month, two months down the road, you start to realize that maybe you'd be better off with something else.

I really, really want to like this Edwards - I like the way it sounds, and it doesn't play bad at all by any means, but I just can't vibe with it as well as I can with my trusty Schecter. I think it boils down to me just not being as much of a Les Paul guy as I thought. The things I don't like about it:

-Upper fret access isn't as good as I want it to be. Clunky, gigantic heel... typical of LPs.

-The switch position is a pain, IMO. I sometimes hit it when strumming, and I ALWAYS hit it when I go up to do some fretboard tapping if my right hand is going to be anywhere below the 17th fret, which is a lot.

-Not really digging the short scale. My fingers don't feel cramped, but I push things out of tune a bit easier, and the whole guitar feels 'slinkier.'

-The neck pickup I find to be way darker/muddier than I would use - I'm used to 24 fret neck pickups, which are brighter/tighter. This one just doesn't do it for me.

-On that note... only 22 frets. I could definitely live with 22 frets (If I had proper access to them all...), but I prefer 24 frets. I just like to have that real estate, and it comes in handy for tapping.

-Not really an LP specific issue, but the medium jumbo frets on this don't suit me as well as extra jumbo frets would.

Sounds to me like I need a non LP styled axe... would you guys agree? I'm *this* close to putting it up for sale and buying a Horizon NT-II.

 

[Gearjoneser]

Re: Man, the only thing I hate more than the honeymoon period...

You're absolutely right. Five hundred bucks! :drive:

 

[Skarekrough]

Re: Man, the only thing I hate more than the honeymoon period...

And then... two weeks, three weeks, a month, two months down the road, you start to realize that maybe you'd be better off with something else.

Well, yes and no.

The "newness" has worn off and now you're dealing with something as it is and it not being what you're used to.

To a certain degree the level of comfort should be compromised for awhile to see if the benifits of the new offering can outweigh your previous experience.

I'm a big proponent of having gear that make you a better player. Sometimes the path to that is not immediate nor is it easy. And in the end you may find that you're a better player overall and that your tastes have changed.

Schecter makes a great axe, but it takes to real discipline to make it sound decent.

Something like a Telecaster I always found to be a Battle Royale to get to sound good and for me to play.

I've owned a Tele for most of my guitar playing life. Anything else next to it is easy! And that can be nice on the right night at the right gig to cruise through. But playing the Tele has made me a better player and when I get up there with it, I know I've got the chops to make it sound good and I firmly believe that translates.

 

[ImmortalSix]

Re: Man, the only thing I hate more than the honeymoon period...

Man, I'm there too with my 335 --- I got it a month ago and I realized last night when I was practicing along with an Albert King song, I was playing my Strat and my '51...

Then I knew...the honeymoon's over --- it's still another tool in the toolbox though!

 

[scottish]

Re: Man, the only thing I hate more than the honeymoon period...

i know what you mean too man. I want to like LPs...but i just cant. I think its the scale. Ive grown to love my fenders, and the few guitars ive build have a 25" scale which i like even more. But everytime i pick up something with a gibby scale length, its the out the door again within a month

 

[wixomwhat]

Re: Man, the only thing I hate more than the honeymoon period...

...is when it finally starts coming to an end, and you've had it happen so many times that you can feel it coming.


You know, you get a new piece of gear and you absolutely. positively. love. it.

And then... two weeks, three weeks, a month, two months down the road, you start to realize that maybe you'd be better off with something else.

I really, really want to like this Edwards - I like the way it sounds, and it doesn't play bad at all by any means, but I just can't vibe with it as well as I can with my trusty Schecter. I think it boils down to me just not being as much of a Les Paul guy as I thought. The things I don't like about it:

-Upper fret access isn't as good as I want it to be. Clunky, gigantic heel... typical of LPs.

-The switch position is a pain, IMO. I sometimes hit it when strumming, and I ALWAYS hit it when I go up to do some fretboard tapping if my right hand is going to be anywhere below the 17th fret, which is a lot.

-Not really digging the short scale. My fingers don't feel cramped, but I push things out of tune a bit easier, and the whole guitar feels 'slinkier.'

-The neck pickup I find to be way darker/muddier than I would use - I'm used to 24 fret neck pickups, which are brighter/tighter. This one just doesn't do it for me.

-On that note... only 22 frets. I could definitely live with 22 frets (If I had proper access to them all...), but I prefer 24 frets. I just like to have that real estate, and it comes in handy for tapping.

-Not really an LP specific issue, but the medium jumbo frets on this don't suit me as well as extra jumbo frets would.

Sounds to me like I need a non LP styled axe... would you guys agree? I'm *this* close to putting it up for sale and buying a Horizon NT-II.

Dude dont you sell all your stuff a month after get it?

 

[Virtual Kevorkian]

Re: Man, the only thing I hate more than the honeymoon period...

Hah yeah I'm a bit of a gear whore. The stuff I REEEEEEALLY like has stayed with me (Schecter, EMGs, 5150, Mesa cab, OD808).

The rest of the stuff I buy almost out of curiosity, to try out. I'm such a picky schmuck that I only keep what's really 'perfect' for me.

 

[Rowan]

Re: Man, the only thing I hate more than the honeymoon period...

I can dig it man. Lately I've been playing my Ibanez SZ520 over my EC400AT for similar reasons. Its more comfortable. Easier to play on at band practice, not as heavy as the archtop. Gets a more cutting sound out of the 5150.

But I know for sure that when my band goes in for more recording it will be a valuable tool. And you know that lead tone really does sustain forever

 

[Kosh Naranek]

Re: Man, the only thing I hate more than the honeymoon period...

Have realistic expectations for your gear. Don't buy a LP style guitar to shred around on. Don't expect the scale length to feel like your 25 1/2" scale guitars.

I have a few LP style guitars. I put heavier strings on them. Either .011's or .010 - .052 (lite top heavy bottom). I actually like the short scale with stout, chunky low strings. I put .010's on my 25 1/2" scale guitars.

And I don't try to shred around at the 20th fret on my Hamer Monaco Elite Mahogany, which is a single cutaway guitar fairly similar to a LP. I've never been able to shred around on a LP style guitar. I have that guitar for playing chunky sounding riffs, and some lead, but not real high up on the neck.

This approach actually is a great justification to buy more gear, especially if you record in a studio. Rather than looking for one or two guitars that do it all, you need several - one for riffing, one to be your favorite lead axe, one for great clean tones, and so on.

Yes, if you're a gigging guitarist, you want to avoid the dead air that happens all too often while you're switching guitars. In that situation, I would agree that you do have to find one guitar that best covers all the bases you need to cover at a gig.

Admittedly, my approach does kinda spoil the honeymoon. In fact the guitar is no longer the love of your life on your honeymoon. It's just another tool in your collection, there for when you need to do the task that it's best made for doing. But I like having the right tools for the right job, and I enjoy using them.

 

[suislidE03]

Re: Man, the only thing I hate more than the honeymoon period...

Same here VK.. im about to sell my mesa head and go for something else. I dont seem to have the same problem with guitars though. I know if im going to like it or not when i first play it. Im pretty lucky there, as I dont always have much money to invest. Im also fortunate that Im no longer in a band, so going through amps for fun is no problem for me. On a side note, I wanted that darn full shred!! argghgh I cant believe I didnt see your thread! :smack:

 

[stevie_bees]

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I agree with a lot of what you've said about Les Pauls, Jeff. I want to like them and get on with them. I love the sound, but can't justify shelling out the cash on what might just turn out to be a short-lived experiment...
I won't touch PRS either, cos I'll either be incredibly disappointed, or love them so much I need to have one, and I can't afford that!!

 

[kherman]

Re: Man, the only thing I hate more than the honeymoon period...

Sell it, VK

Because you actually need one of these.

Then report back to KeeperOS and I on it's awesomeness.

 

[Virtual Kevorkian]

Re: Man, the only thing I hate more than the honeymoon period...

Actually, I reeeeeally would dig one of those Kiko Lauriwhatzio signatures, but even the Edwards model is ****ed expensive! I'll be going with an ESP Horizon NT-II or one of the new M-I's

I'm actually headed out to take pictures of the LP right now... expect it to be up for grabs in the next few hours.

 

[KeeperOS]

Re: Man, the only thing I hate more than the honeymoon period...

I know what you mean man but, that's the LP. You take the good with the bad.
Me, I've been finding myself playing my chunky Strat more than my sleekier but duller sounding Cort. The more one evolves as a guitarist the more he's willing to fight with a guitar to get the tone he wants I guess...

Right now I've been saving money for my next No.1, a Schecter would be a consideration but, like another guy said earlier, although they play like butter they give you a hard time sounding as good as they play, at least the ones I've tried.

More seriously I've been thinking of a Carvin DC127/135, an LTD Phil Hamilton Sig and, the Kiko above (or the normal ES-165, depending on the little differences I'll end up liking more).

Actually, I have no idea what you're saying. That Edwards Kiko (not the ESP) and the ordinary ES-165s cost half an ESP Horizon, unless you've got some way of getting it half price. If not then a Kiko will go for about 1380 US$ plus whatever you'd pay for importing it...

 

[Virtual Kevorkian]

Re: Man, the only thing I hate more than the honeymoon period...

ESP Horizon NTII runs about 1300 new, the M-I is even cheaper.

As far as the Schecters not sounding that great, I'd agree, on the newer ones I've played mine just has this amazing cut of wood I guess - it resonates like no other guitar I've had. Krankguitarist owned it for about a year before selling it back to me... he can attest to it's badassery.

FS thread posted.

 

[JB_From_Hell]

Re: Man, the only thing I hate more than the honeymoon period...

I went through the same get it/sell it thing, but decided to just try to make whatever work, and I'm really glad I did.

Basically, I agree with what Skarey said.

 

[cream123]

Re: Man, the only thing I hate more than the honeymoon period...

it's probably because you changed the knobs.

 

[KeeperOS]

Re: Man, the only thing I hate more than the honeymoon period...

ESP Horizon NTII runs about 1300 new, the M-I is even cheaper.

Huh? Where?!?!?!

No matter where I looked I can only find an ESP Horizon NT II for about 2400 US$, the M-I as well, neither THAT cheaper...

Still, even like so, I'm just a sucker for SC sized neck pus (hence I liked the Phil Hamilton sig out of all of ESPs/LTDs offerings) and the tilted part with 27 frets just adds to the coolness factor

Are you sure it's not an LTD or second hand or sth?

 

[Virtual Kevorkian]

Re: Man, the only thing I hate more than the honeymoon period...

Huh? Where?!?!?!

No matter where I looked I can only find an ESP Horizon NT II for about 2400 US$, the M-I as well, neither THAT cheaper...

Still, even like so, I'm just a sucker for SC sized neck pus (hence I liked the Phil Hamilton sig out of all of ESPs/LTDs offerings) and the tilted part with 27 frets just adds to the coolness factor

Are you sure it's not an LTD or second hand or sth?

http://www.drumcityguitarland.com/d...burst-6-String-Electric-Guitar--P498C426.aspx

http://www.drumcityguitarland.com/d...Satin-6-String-Electric-Guitar--P499C426.aspx

I was a bit off on the NTII, but there ya go.

 

[suislidE03]

Re: Man, the only thing I hate more than the honeymoon period...

I played one of those M-I guitars at steves music in montreal a while back. Awesome guitar! Felt as light as my Jackson, and the neck was similar but a tad chunkier. Everything looked great, and it sounded good too even with an 81 in the bridge.