Marshall 2203X inbound... experiences/input welcome...

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Been mostly focusing on my new-flamenco playing and nylon-string/acoustic/PA gear for the past year and a half. But some acoustic burn-out and an issue with my picking arm ulnar nerve has me back into rock mode and solid bodies again.

Just ordered a demo 2203X from Sweetwater on their 24-month no-interest plan. Was just under $1840 total. I know that I could have got an original 2203 on Ebay for cheaper, but that zero interest deal is hard to beat... plus I HAVE to have an FX loop.

Anyways... haven't bought a new Marshall in a while. I guess I did have a nice used (original) DSL50 head that I bought a year and a half ago. I traded it off this past spring. It was a good amp. I've got a friend's Bogner XTC 101B on long-term loan in my man cave at the present that's a great amp (as well as my hand-wired PTP Straub 6L6 Bassman clone and an Egnater Rebel 20). But I've found that I've been missing that HUGE, in your face roar that Marshalls seem to have. I've owned and/or had in my possession a Bogner XTC Classic/Shiva/Uber TJ, VHT Ultra Lead, Elmwood M60, Engl Powerball II, H&K Triamp, and a Mike Lickliter Rage prototype over the past few years. Of all of them, I miss the Lickliter the most. I actually sold it to the friend who's XTC I'm playing now. Loaned it to him to try out and he didn't want to let-go of it. I really shouldn't have sold that one! It had that big, modded Marshall thing going. He runs the Lickliter in stereo with his 2012 Splawn Quick Rod and LOVES it. Calls it the "Splawn-Lick". LOL! That's why his XTC is at my house. Been getting no love (or playing) for all of 2013, so he wanted me to warm up the tubes now and then.

So missing the huge, modded-Marshall tone of my old Lickliter is why I decided to try the 2203X. I've always heard about the greatness of JCM800 amps (and grew-up and learned to play guitar in the 80s -- so I lived through the age when they were the be-all, end-all). But I've never owned one before. I did try out a 2203X at my local shop last year at low volume and was pretty blown-away by the HUGENESS of the tone in that thing. But they wanted $2300 for it and I wasn't in the mood to spend boutique amp money on a single-channel reissue amp. This Sweetwater deal should be the right price and terms to make me happy. Looking forward to getting her next Tuesday and will give a follow-up report to let ya know how she compares to the other amps I've owned. I do love the lead tones in the XTC, but there's NO doubt in my mind that the 800 will CRUSH it when it comes to making a HUGE tone. At least if the low-volume demo last year in the store was any indication. Also, I've grown out of the "more bling, more knobs, more lights and more features" thing. I find that in general, the more circuits in there, the more tone sucking that goes on. These days, I'll take a great, classic single-channel amp over the latest blinged-out behemoth boutique must-have on the gear forums. Want a purity of tone and note definition, but with a giant, fat tone. I've heard that the 800s can be trebly, but my short experience with the 2203 at the shop leads me to believe that it's a tone I can work with.
 
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what the jcm 800 does best is produce alot of smooth gain. think early van halen tones.

limitations for the 800-it sounds best with the pre-amp gain set at 10. below that it sounds a bit thin. the clean tones aren't loud enough. i can have the master volume at 10 in the low sensitivity channel and barely be heard in a jam session.

i love it for the high gain sounds. it gets that nice tone at low volumes, so practicing at bedroom levels is fun. the low channel is usable at low volumes. it is my favorite amp to use for practicing.

it sounds great with the master at low levels, yes. i'd say it's better suited for hard rock. non master volume marshalls nail the 60s/70s sound. the 800 gets the 80s hard rock and metal sounds.

i had a 1982 jcm 800 (2204 - 50 watt model) and the re-issues sound the same, if i recall correctly. i think it's worth getting the re-issue because the older the amp, the likelihood of expensive maintenance (capacitor and tube swaps) increases. i had high expectations from my first 800 when i got the re-issue so i may have a bit of bias in the authenticity of the re-issue.

the 800 is an all or nothing amp, which is why it's not my clear favorite marshall. a non master volume can produce usable light crunch where the 800 can't. if you have a good linear volume pot in your guitar or a clean boost pedal the plexi is versatile for clean and crunch. the 800 doesn't clean up as well. so the 800 isn't as versatile in that sense.
 
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They also take a boost like a champ. JCM800 + boost = rock n fookin roll.
 
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I play Lickliters at DOA every year. I say get one of those!
 
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I play Lickliters at DOA every year. I say get one of those!

I will have another for sure. That Rage was a beast! And it was very cool that it was Mike's prototype. My buddy who conned me out of it swore that it'd always be there for me. But I think it'll be a while before he'll let it out of his sight. That's why his relatively unloved Bogner 101b has been at my house for a month (and he says "just keep it indefinitely... I'll come get it when/if I need it back".
 
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I still don't understand why anyone would shell out so much for the reissue. You could have gotten a loop added to an original one or found one with it already in it and saved yourself $800, but to each his own.

With that said, my '83 2204 is the best amp I've veer played through, so welcome to the 800 club!

Esandes - Sorry to say I disagree with alot of your points on this amp, Guess it goes to show how everyone perceives things differently
 
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So last night I realized why I thought this beast was STUPID LOUD (and why my attenuator was heating-up so much). Turns-out I wasn't looking close enough at the labels above the knobs (my view while standing above it means I can't read the labels without squatting-down). I had the Master Volume and Gain knobs reversed in how I was running them. I was running the MV at 2:00-300 and the Gain at 9:00ish. NO WONDER I HAD TO HAVE IT AT INSANE VOLUME TO GET ENOUGH GAIN!!! Geesh. Once I ran things opposite of that, there was plenty of gain on-tap at reasonable volume. DUH!!! Pulled the attenuator out of the chain after a while (it never got hot) and just used the Master Volume like it was supposed to be used. Funny how well things work when you do them RIGHT. DOH!

Btw... REALLY loving this amp. The Bogners, VHT, Elmwood, Engl, Lickliter, etc that I've owned and/or had in my possession over the past few years have nothing on this amp in terms of tone. Just more features/channels. But all I care about is raw tone right now.

I can definitely attest to this amp being THE sound of 80s rock/metal and it's so simple and awesome that I'm hoping to be stuck on my desert island with this amp for a long time sans GAS. Well... I may have to still add a 1959RR, JMP, and other great Marshalls to the stable of amps. But I'd like to just really soak this amp in for a long while and not be wasting time and energy jonesing for other amps. Beyond TIRED of that garbage...


Obligatory pic of rig. Wish I still had my JCM900 1960A and 1960B cabs but I sold them a while back. The Line6 cab is the V30-loaded cab and I really dig it. But I'll NO doubt have to pickup another 1960 cab to put the 2203X on, because it's GOT to say MARSHALL on it to look right!

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Awesome amp man. It's one of my all-time favorites. Congratulations. The only suggestion I can offer that most people don't mention or notice is that it sounds best through the low input for some reason. Also, it allows you to dial in a clean tone and use pedals to achieve saturation. I don't know why it works that way, but the low input just sounds better, especially when you crank it. it's also a bit clearer so your chords and solos sound a bit more defined. Furthermore, you can get a better low volume sound with it too. The FX loop is great, but I found that effects sound just fine and are also quiet through the low input as well.
 
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Hmmm... I'll have to play with the low input some more I guess. I did try it the other day and didn't care for it. But I've been playing the high input mostly and have gotten used to the amp's response through it. I am assuming that going through the low input and running-up the master is a decent way to get a plexi thing going? (Since the JCM800s are supposedly more or less plexis with MVs according to Jim Marshall himself.)

Anyways... i just LOVE this amp and it's got everything I need/want. I just don't need or desire "busy" amps anymore. I did pull my friend's XTC 101b back out of its flight case the other day and A/B'd it against the 2203 some more. I do like the Bogner, but I like the Marshall more. I feel like I've come home after many years of wandering away from where I started.
 
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Hmmm... I'll have to play with the low input some more I guess. I did try it the other day and didn't care for it. But I've been playing the high input mostly and have gotten used to the amp's response through it. I am assuming that going through the low input and running-up the master is a decent way to get a plexi thing going? (Since the JCM800s are supposedly more or less plexis with MVs according to Jim Marshall himself.)

Anyways... i just LOVE this amp and it's got everything I need/want. I just don't need or desire "busy" amps anymore. I did pull my friend's XTC 101b back out of its flight case the other day and A/B'd it against the 2203 some more. I do like the Bogner, but I like the Marshall more. I feel like I've come home after many years of wandering away from where I started.

Yeah no matter which way you slice it, you need some volume on that amp. It doesn't have to be crazy loud, but you won't get good tone out of it playing late at night and trying not to wake the baby. I do like the high input, but unless you use the JCM800 without a boost or overdrive, I prefer the low input. I also prefer it because you can get a surprising amount of loud clean headroom, but it has just enough push that adding an overdrive in front drives the amp to sweet sustain which can be useful if you want to treat it like you have clean & dirty channels.

Some of the pedals I've used on it include a BK Butler Tube Driver, Klon, pretty much every Maxon overdrive made including the TBO-9, Xotic BB, Fulldrive, and a plethora of distortion pedals like the GNI X-treme Distortion, etc... about the only time I prefer the high input is either when I need brutal gain or want to get enough distortion/sustain from the amp alone. It also depends on the pickups. I love the high input with hot ceramic pickups like the Super Distortion or Duncan Distortion, but the low input suits me better for mid output humbuckers and single coils.
 
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I've got a Reyes Audio attenuator that I've been using for a few days on the 2203X and it's been great. I'm still in the recommended break-in period... but so far it seems to really cut the volume without sacrificing tone. For a $115 attenuator I could not be happier!
 
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Congrats on the amp! I gigged a lot with a 50 watter years back, one of my favorites for sure!
 
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congrats! I had a marshall jcm2203 half stack, and it was just way too loud for anything really. It needed a boost cause I needed more distortion, but then all I would hear was solid state yuck, and then the squeels. so I sold it and got a JCM900, but then realized I need way more low end and could not dial out all that treble. I play a way different genre then most guitarists though so I just got my Orange TV50 and could not be happier :) Glad it works for you though, they are awesome in the right hands!
 
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Picked-up a nice JCM900 1960A slant cab a few days ago. Now my halfstack looks "proper". LOL!


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thats cool man, looks great, double congrats!!!! I am glad that attenuator is working out ;)
 
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