marshall pedals

[Davey]

apart of the fact they are built like a tank, are they any good?

and how would a guv'nor compare to other pedals, like the boss metal zone ibanez smash box, tube screamer .. how hard/easy is it to mod them


once i get the laney (just a matter of money transfer now.. i'm applying for a visa this week - sick of being dependant on local stores), i'm thinking of ditching the smash box completely cos of its artificial sound and get something like the guv'nor, cos i liked it when i played it through another dudes VC30 combo. has a certain attitude and grind to it.


what do you guys say?
i got this version in mind

 

[GuitarStv]

Re: marshall pedals

I have an ED-1 Compressor and a VT-2 Vibratrem (had for about a year or so). They both sound pretty good and are well built. No problems with either of them.

 

[JeffB]

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I've got one of those new Guv'nors...

It's pretty damn good....you can dial in a ton of sounds...though I haven't tried I'm sure you could dial in that scoopy stuff if ya wanted to. It can give ya a HUGE amount of low end...too much in fact if you are not careful and you will lose some articulation. Distortion is pretty smooth/buzz free...not as tubey as something like Rid's plexitone...but not bad at all. You can of course make it sound super harsh too.

It basically will go from mid 70s metalface to 900 series.

Lot better than a MZ, IMO...but it is kinda hard to dial in. Pexitone was a "set it anywhere and it sounds freaking phenomenal" type ped...this thing requires some tweakin'.

EDIT: like most stompboxes and modellers, I find it works better for crunchy chord stuff than leads...sometimes single not stuff sounds wonky if ya don't sacrifice some "chunk" dialing in your rhythm sound.

 

[Davey]

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well, i dont remember the settings i used when i played through that setup, but it was just some random numbers.. amp volume was set to 5 or 6, EQ was pretty even, with a push in the mids and gain at 3-4 (not o'clock) and the pedal was pretty much the same.. no major tweaking done, except the gain was about 2:30 o'clock and level to boost it slightly. nothing fancy (no i am not looking into scooped stuff. i like it old school, thankyouverymuch)

i guess i'll give it a spin once i unload some stuff and get the amp

 

[B2D]

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I used to have a Jackhammer that was my main source of overdrive when I played SS amps. I kinda wish i still had it... it sounded damn good!

 

[TheArchitect]

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I've got one of those new Guv'nors...

It's pretty damn good....you can dial in a ton of sounds...though I haven't tried I'm sure you could dial in that scoopy stuff if ya wanted to. It can give ya a HUGE amount of low end...too much in fact if you are not careful and you will lose some articulation. Distortion is pretty smooth/buzz free...not as tubey as something like Rid's plexitone...but not bad at all. You can of course make it sound super harsh too.

It basically will go from mid 70s metalface to 900 series.

Lot better than a MZ, IMO...but it is kinda hard to dial in. Pexitone was a "set it anywhere and it sounds freaking phenomenal" type ped...this thing requires some tweakin'.

EDIT: like most stompboxes and modellers, I find it works better for crunchy chord stuff than leads...sometimes single not stuff sounds wonky if ya don't sacrifice some "chunk" dialing in your rhythm sound.

I have both generations of Guv'nors and while I still prefer the original I can function just as easily with the Silver. The original was just easier to Dial in. The silver has more EQ and Gain range than the original

 

[Mephis]

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I use a jackhammer to add some british tone to my classic or completely change the tone of my classic from a brittle warm tone to a wet dark tone.


I even dial it down really low and use it to alter the voice of my clean tone.



Its a great pedal TBH... Probably alot better than some of those botique stuff thats selling for a virgin's soul.

 

[STRATDELUXER97]

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I own both the Jackhammer and a first generation Guv'nor that I built....Both are pretty cool,but the Carl Martin Plexitone I Like better than both...

 

[Dills]

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I have the New Guvnor or had it for a while maybe 2 years now, at first i thought it sounded crap but thats cause i was using the battery compartment and once the battery life goes down so does the tone. It tends to be very picky with different amps with my classic 50 it sounded crap too muddy and middy with no definition or high end on the other hand with a ss practice amp it sounds alot better maybe cos it was cleaner on the clean channel?? After using a 9v adapter i began to really like it and at one point use the pedal for my main overdrive sound, after getting a tube amp i have always found it lacking compared to the overdrive on a tube amp. and i have been on and of with it since changing pickups and guitars it sounds good with certain things but its very picky. Hows does the jackhammer sound compared to it?

 

[calibre2001]

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Finally, it's great to hear people like the Guvnor 2 and are not fanatically in favour of the original. Most forums seem to favour the Jackhammer over it , but I prefer this 'cause it has a more real sound.

I've owned one for 2 years plus and agree with some have mentioned here. It's a fussy pedal and it pays to test it out with your setup before buying it. Although it nails a wide range of Marshall sounds, it does the 80s JCM800-esque sound best. And remember, it loves buckers more than SCs.....
For lighter OD, I stick to my Boss OD3, which in truth sounds way more real than the Guvnor. But it aint no Marshall....

 

[Davey]

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well, i tried it through a laney VC30 with a JB/59 loaded SG .. the bar was pretty loud, but it sounded awesome.

i'm gonna snag one used and check it out

 

[JeffB]

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I was messing around with mine last nite again cos this thread got me interested in spending some more time with it. I ran it on the clean channel of my VS65R. It was definitely a little fussy to get right, and I still don't have it perfect, but it's a fairly convincing 800 simulation. The bass/deep controls are so interactive and can really make things sound inarticulate (notes fart out) if you are not careful. But it's pretty dang smooth, and has a nice tube-like quality. BTW Davey I was trying to emulate Adrian's tone on 22 Acacia Ave on LAD. I got pretty dang close.:bigthumb:

I don't think I'd ever use it as my main gain sound gigging (at least through this amp), but it works phenomenally well for getting a 2203 stack sound @ bedroom/home levels. Through an all tube amp, I'm sure it would sound even better. Though I think I'd recommend to stick with a Marshall (british) voiced amp instead of say a Fender type voicing. I say this based on the toneshift of the clean channel on the VS65 which puts it more into a Fender type clean (jangly, less mids, increased bass/treble response). It sounded much more authentic through the Marshall type clean with the toneshift off.

EDIT: I'll make ya some clips over the weekend if ya want...just PM me to remind me, please

 

[calibre2001]

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Davey,

I use a SG thru a Laney tubey. From your experience, I don't reckon any problems. Dunno if this helps but I use my Guvnor thru the low input jack rather than high. This way the Guv is the only preamp. You wont experience two preamps clashing at unbearable volume n feedback.

 

[Davey]

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BTW Davey I was trying to emulate Adrian's tone on 22 Acacia Ave on LAD. I got pretty dang close.:bigthumb:

:32:

Though I think I'd recommend to stick with a Marshall (british) voiced amp instead of say a Fender type voicing.

well, i intend to run it through a laney LC15R .. should have it by the end of next month, depends on when my credit card will be ready.

yea, i dont mind clips
did you get the stuff i sent you in the pm?

Davey,

I use a SG thru a Laney tubey. From your experience, I don't reckon any problems. Dunno if this helps but I use my Guvnor thru the low input jack rather than high. This way the Guv is the only preamp. You wont experience two preamps clashing at unbearable volume n feedback.

for the life of me i dont know which input i was going at that time. all i know is, it was the best tone i ever had. loud, balls to the wall with a sweet low end growl. basicaly like a cranked marshall i'd say.. just not AS loud hehe

 

[JeffB]

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:32:

well, i intend to run it through a laney LC15R

Not fam with the amp....El84s? Vox voicing? or typical Laney?

yea, i dont mind clips did you get the stuff i sent you in the pm?

I got the link but totally forgot to look at it last night.. :grumble: Will do tonite! And I'll get ya some clips soon.

balls to the wall with a sweet low end growl. basicaly like a cranked marshall i'd say.. just not AS loud hehe

Yep...it def has that characteristic low mid "growl" of JMP/JCM 2203 (and the "slice" on the top end :bigthumb:

 

[stevie_bees]

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I only use a Supervibe through the FX loop of my TSL, but I love the sound of it.

 

[Davey]

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Not fam with the amp....El84s? Vox voicing? or typical Laney?

yea, el84's .. though i'll start looking into other tubes and since i am a complete t00b n00b, expect two million threads about it LOL

voicing.. i'd say typical laney. somewhat a marshall type, but still with its own voice

 

[calibre2001]

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How's the progress?

 

[Davey]

Re: marshall pedals

huh?

waiting for the credit card to be aprooved lol


any clippage jeff?

 

[ErikH]

Re: marshall pedals

Speaking of Marshall pedals, has anyone in the UK or Europe tried their new reverb pedal?