Matching Duncan cream singles to Dimarzio cream 'buckers
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Seezer
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Re: Matching Duncan cream singles to Dimarzio cream 'buckers
Why is he a *****? Genuine curiosity. Not being smart.
Masta' C
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Yeah, he got a one-up on the rest of the market by being semi-dishonest about his trademarks/patents early on.
Have you seen the cream covers SD offers? Never compared them to DiMarzio's cream (actually, DiMarzio has a couple tones of cream depending on year and bobbin material), but they seem to be close:
https://reverb.com/item/1023416-seymour-duncan-s-cover-cream-replacement-cover-3-pack-with-logo
Yeah, he got a one-up on the rest of the market by being semi-dishonest about his trademarks/patents early on.
Have you seen the cream covers SD offers? Never compared them to DiMarzio's cream (actually, DiMarzio has a couple tones of cream depending on year and bobbin material), but they seem to be close:
https://reverb.com/item/1023416-seymour-duncan-s-cover-cream-replacement-cover-3-pack-with-logo
donaldr
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Not that trademark thing again...
Double cream never was a Gibson thing, it was Dimarzio. Gibson thing was chrome/nickel covered pickups not double cream at all, even if they used cream bobins once upon a time (because unavailability of black bobins) and people started removing covers on their Gibson. In the '70s and '80s, the double cream was really Dimarzio Super Distortion. Other pickup makers started to offer double cream and Dimarzio used a Trademark to protect them. Fare enough. I think Seymour Duncan would have done the same thing if Dimarzio started to put an SD logo on their Super Distortion pickup.
The PAF trademark on the other hand I don't understand.
Not that trademark thing again...
Double cream never was a Gibson thing, it was Dimarzio. Gibson thing was chrome/nickel covered pickups not double cream at all, even if they used cream bobins once upon a time (because unavailability of black bobins) and people started removing covers on their Gibson. In the '70s and '80s, the double cream was really Dimarzio Super Distortion. Other pickup makers started to offer double cream and Dimarzio used a Trademark to protect them. Fare enough. I think Seymour Duncan would have done the same thing if Dimarzio started to put an SD logo on their Super Distortion pickup.
The PAF trademark on the other hand I don't understand.
Re: Matching Duncan cream singles to Dimarzio cream 'buckers
Larry only got the idea for double cream because of the already exposed bobbins on his Les Paul. He didn't come up with the idea himself and discover that Gibson had done it in tandem.
And there was plenty of buzz about that look due to Eric Clapton's Beano Les Paul which sported the same thing, and was a hugely influential guitarist at the same time that his ideas for pickup winding was becoming a business proposition..
Larry only got the idea for double cream because of the already exposed bobbins on his Les Paul. He didn't come up with the idea himself and discover that Gibson had done it in tandem.
And there was plenty of buzz about that look due to Eric Clapton's Beano Les Paul which sported the same thing, and was a hugely influential guitarist at the same time that his ideas for pickup winding was becoming a business proposition..
beaubrummels
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Duncan aged/parchment covers will never match DiMarzio creme. They are distinctly different colors. You could get white ones and try to tint them until they get close to DiMarzios however.
Duncan aged/parchment covers will never match DiMarzio creme. They are distinctly different colors. You could get white ones and try to tint them until they get close to DiMarzios however.
beaubrummels
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Ah right, singles don’t have the copyright restriction
Ah right, singles don’t have the copyright restriction
Peteshreds
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I feel like the DiMarzio cream is a bit more "orange" looking. IMO, Seymour's take on cream is nicer.
I feel like the DiMarzio cream is a bit more "orange" looking. IMO, Seymour's take on cream is nicer.
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I recently swapped to DiMarzio creme in both neck and bridge on an LP.
But pic by retailer on DP103 for neck were like you said more like orange almost - and pic for DP100 for bridge looked more creme.
So I looked like crazy if there were two similar creme and a difference cream and creme or something - but no.
When I got them they were both light yellow - or proper creme.
So don't be fooled by some pics, is what I try to say.
And darned pretty they are. Really close to pickup frame and bindings on guitar.
I recently swapped to DiMarzio creme in both neck and bridge on an LP.
But pic by retailer on DP103 for neck were like you said more like orange almost - and pic for DP100 for bridge looked more creme.
So I looked like crazy if there were two similar creme and a difference cream and creme or something - but no.
When I got them they were both light yellow - or proper creme.
So don't be fooled by some pics, is what I try to say.
And darned pretty they are. Really close to pickup frame and bindings on guitar.
Re: Matching Duncan cream singles to Dimarzio cream 'buckers
I always thought that, too...it has this orange-yellow thing going on that I don't like.
I always thought that, too...it has this orange-yellow thing going on that I don't like.
Masta' C
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As you can see from my picture above, "cream" has its own rainbow of shades and tones. I didn't have a DiMarzio PAF-type on hand to throw in the mix, but their glossier bobbins are an even different shade of cream. Probably should have included my Suhr Aldrich, though. Oh well.
I think the most attractive one is the '70s JB by far. The newer DiMarzio Air Norton/Tone Zone are just a slightly darker/warmer version of that same tone.
The EBMM Axis pickup has a noticeably lighter and slightly yellow-ish bobbin than it's other DiMarzio peers and the Black Winter's cream bobbin is like a washed out version of that.
In person, each of these "looks" cream when viewed alone or next to its matching neck/bridge pickup, but compared collectively, you can see all the different colors, even from the same company.
As you can see from my picture above, "cream" has its own rainbow of shades and tones. I didn't have a DiMarzio PAF-type on hand to throw in the mix, but their glossier bobbins are an even different shade of cream. Probably should have included my Suhr Aldrich, though. Oh well.
I think the most attractive one is the '70s JB by far. The newer DiMarzio Air Norton/Tone Zone are just a slightly darker/warmer version of that same tone.
The EBMM Axis pickup has a noticeably lighter and slightly yellow-ish bobbin than it's other DiMarzio peers and the Black Winter's cream bobbin is like a washed out version of that.
In person, each of these "looks" cream when viewed alone or next to its matching neck/bridge pickup, but compared collectively, you can see all the different colors, even from the same company.
eclecticsynergy
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I always felt the DiMarzio creme was just a shade darker. I don't doubt that they've varied somewhat over the years, not necessarily by specification but maybe just due to slight variations in the plastic from batch to batch.
Cream is so hard to photograph accurately - you really can't compare tint when looking at pics from different sellers.
I think both brands are pretty consistent these days though.
I like the Duncan cream best. Of course double cream Duncans are rare now since they quit making them many years ago.
I always felt the DiMarzio creme was just a shade darker. I don't doubt that they've varied somewhat over the years, not necessarily by specification but maybe just due to slight variations in the plastic from batch to batch.
Cream is so hard to photograph accurately - you really can't compare tint when looking at pics from different sellers.
I think both brands are pretty consistent these days though.
I like the Duncan cream best. Of course double cream Duncans are rare now since they quit making them many years ago.
Re: Matching Duncan cream singles to Dimarzio cream 'buckers
Parchment plus shoe polish....
https://forum.seymourduncan.com/sho...ymour-Duncan-Parchment-Kiwi-Brown-Shoe-Polish
Parchment plus shoe polish....
https://forum.seymourduncan.com/sho...ymour-Duncan-Parchment-Kiwi-Brown-Shoe-Polish
Masta' C
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Re: Matching Duncan cream singles to Dimarzio cream 'buckers
Hmm. I remember that. Half tempted to try that on the Black Winters I got to tone the color down some. I intended them for the guitar shown in the picture I posted above, but, as you can see, they are such a bright/light cream (not parchment, but close)
Question is...does the shoe polish last?
Hmm. I remember that. Half tempted to try that on the Black Winters I got to tone the color down some. I intended them for the guitar shown in the picture I posted above, but, as you can see, they are such a bright/light cream (not parchment, but close)
Question is...does the shoe polish last?
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