Megadeth So Far So Good So What tone

[dave4378]

Ok i know 2 things in regards to this album. There's a huge amount of delay used & Jeff Young played Kramers. Other than that any information i can find about gear used in this record (which is next to zero) seems pretty elusive & not very concrete. Inside the vinyl sleeve all you get is a list of endorsments really. Don't know if Dave Mustaine even had a Jackson endorsment during the recording of this album, i imagine the endorsment came after the album was finnished or near completion atleast & he started playing the King Vs around that time.
Basically i love the tone of that opening rhythm riff imediatly after the explosion on Set The World Afire, that album definitly has a unique tone compared to all their other albums & pretty much any other thrash album. I also love the lead tone on that album. Jeff Young's playing is pretty frantic.
I think i can hera a JB in there somewhere, so i could be wrong about the endorsment thing, but because at certain points both guitars may play the same rhythm riff at the same time ( like the before mentioned opening riff) it's hard to pinpoint what i'm hearing that i like.
So yeah, does anyone know which pickups were used by Dave Mustaine & by Jeff Young & also which guiars they used for recording that album?

 

[dominus]

Re: Megadeth So Far So Good So What tone

I think you've answered your own question....

From Wikipedia:

In 1986, after recording Killing Is My Business..., Mustaine approached Jackson Guitars for a custom-built guitar. Jackson modified their existing Jackson King V model for Mustaine by adding 2 more frets to the standard 22 fret King V. In the 1990s the company began mass-producing a Dave Mustaine signature series Jackson King V which continued into the early 2000s.

You can also see some clues in the video here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mW0Ao9r2zkY

(In My Darkest Hour)

 

[Shinobi]

Re: Megadeth So Far So Good So What tone

Ok i know 2 things in regards to this album. There's a huge amount of delay used & Jeff Young played Kramers. Other than that any information i can find about gear used in this record (which is next to zero) seems pretty elusive & not very concrete. Inside the vinyl sleeve all you get is a list of endorsments really. Don't know if Dave Mustaine even had a Jackson endorsment during the recording of this album, i imagine the endorsment came after the album was finnished or near completion atleast & he started playing the King Vs around that time.
Basically i love the tone of that opening rhythm riff imediatly after the explosion on Set The World Afire, that album definitly has a unique tone compared to all their other albums & pretty much any other thrash album. I also love the lead tone on that album. Jeff Young's playing is pretty frantic.
I think i can hera a JB in there somewhere, so i could be wrong about the endorsment thing, but because at certain points both guitars may play the same rhythm riff at the same time ( like the before mentioned opening riff) it's hard to pinpoint what i'm hearing that i like.
So yeah, does anyone know which pickups were used by Dave Mustaine & by Jeff Young & also which guiars they used for recording that album?

Yep he (Dave) just hadn't gotten away from using B.C. Rich Guitars and Jeff Young is definetly using a Kramer (Bananna Head). So most will say a JB given the time frame (86') of those two guitars. I know my Baretta 84' came with a Schaller Zebra (8.30 d.c. A5 mag).

The reality is you can get that tone with a 59', JB, DD, or many others. He is using either a Tube Screamer or Heavy Metal distortion petal (lots of crunch) and it just sounds totally metal (I liked Jeff Young and Chris Poland too)...so a lot of the tonal characteristics are gone using that much gain and distortion.

So Far So Good So What is one of my favorite Megadeth albums (to me it is the step up thrash album for Megadeth)....next is RIP (which is great but not really thrash like the first two MD albums).



What pup do you currently have?

 

[Oudy]

Re: Megadeth So Far So Good So What tone

he used stock jackson pickups for a long time in his custom king v then switched to a jb/jazz, i think a jb/jazz would be the best bet. he did however switch to two jb's i think by the risk lineup then back to a jb/jazz sometime after that.

he also started playing acksons right after the recording of peace sells

another good option would be the mustaine livewires.

im not sure about jeff young but im pretty use he used a jb too

 

[DrNewcenstein]

Re: Megadeth So Far So Good So What tone

I think you've answered your own question....

From Wikipedia:

In 1986, after recording Killing Is My Business..., Mustaine approached Jackson Guitars for a custom-built guitar. Jackson modified their existing Jackson King V model for Mustaine by adding 2 more frets to the standard 22 fret King V. In the 1990s the company began mass-producing a Dave Mustaine signature series Jackson King V which continued into the early 2000s.

You can also see some clues in the video here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mW0Ao9r2zkY

(In My Darkest Hour)

They also made it smaller. The King V was originally a Double Rhoads (two Rhoads top wings), and is noticeably larger than a Mustaine-era King V.

he used stock jackson pickups for a long time in his custom king v then switched to a jb/jazz, i think a jb/jazz would be the best bet. he did however switch to two jb's i think by the risk lineup then back to a jb/jazz sometime after that.

he also started playing acksons right after the recording of peace sells

another good option would be the mustaine livewires.

im not sure about jeff young but im pretty use he used a jb too

Wasn't Dave also using a Lawrence 250 in the neck? The USA sig model came with a JB/250 IIRC.

 

[Shinobi]

Re: Megadeth So Far So Good So What tone

They also made it smaller. The King V was originally a Double Rhoads (two Rhoads top wings), and is noticeably larger than a Mustaine-era King V.






Wasn't Dave also using a Lawrence 250 in the neck? The USA sig model came with a JB/250 IIRC.

King V was actually made for Robin "King" Crosby...not Dave. Dave M. has commented on this himself and why he went with Dean.

 

[Thurisaz]

Re: Megadeth So Far So Good So What tone

A large majority of people think the King V refers to Kerry King of Slayer... :lol:

 

[Oudy]

Re: Megadeth So Far So Good So What tone

They also made it smaller. The King V was originally a Double Rhoads (two Rhoads top wings), and is noticeably larger than a Mustaine-era King V.






Wasn't Dave also using a Lawrence 250 in the neck? The USA sig model came with a JB/250 IIRC.

correct i had forgotten which BL it was, i know he used a 250 in his bc rich's neck, not sure what he used in the bridge probally a jb though

 

[Fender_Punk]

Re: Megadeth So Far So Good So What tone

What album(s) has Mustaine used the "Mustaine Livewires" if at all? From what I'm reading here it wasn't the early stuff.

 

[DrNewcenstein]

Re: Megadeth So Far So Good So What tone

King V was actually made for Robin "King" Crosby...not Dave. Dave M. has commented on this himself and why he went with Dean.

I knew the part about RKC, but wasn't aware Dave cited it as a reason for leaving Jackson, especially since he was using the Y2KV at the time.

And to be totally anal about it - Dave Linsk from Overkill had the first Double Rhoads. Robbin was at the shop and saw it sitting there and wanted one. Since RATT was getting more publicity than Overkill, Robbin's nickname went on it "unofficially", and then it became "official".

Mustaine ordered his Customs to be smaller (there was no production KV at the time), and then when they turned it into a production sig model, it kept the name and body size.

So in essence, the "King" V is no longer "King" sized. Funny that.


And yeah, I've heard it called the "named for Kerry King" V as well.

As long as they don't do a "Burger King V", it's ok. :lol: