treyhaislip
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Is it possible to take a 4x10 Fender DeVille and mod it to a 1x15?
Mod 4x10 amp to a 1x15
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Lewguitar
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Re: Mod 4x10 amp to a 1x15
I'm sure it could be done with a new speaker baffle.
But it would be best to match the new 15" speaker with the impedance of the old speakers.
In old Super Reverbs, the 8 ohm speakers are wired in parallel and four 10" speakers in parallel = 2 ohms.
Is your Deville wired the same way so that the amp wants to see a 2 ohm load?
Might be hard to find a 2 ohm 15" speaker if that is the case.
Just food for thought.
I'm sure it could be done with a new speaker baffle.
But it would be best to match the new 15" speaker with the impedance of the old speakers.
In old Super Reverbs, the 8 ohm speakers are wired in parallel and four 10" speakers in parallel = 2 ohms.
Is your Deville wired the same way so that the amp wants to see a 2 ohm load?
Might be hard to find a 2 ohm 15" speaker if that is the case.
Just food for thought.
treyhaislip
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Re: Mod 4x10 amp to a 1x15
Thanks for the info! :beerchug:
Thanks for the info! :beerchug:
treyhaislip
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Re: Mod 4x10 amp to a 1x15
Great suggestion! Never been a fan of 4x10s, but there's a good price on a great amp and I was curious about modding it to a different speak selection.
Thanks for the ideas/suggestions!
Great suggestion! Never been a fan of 4x10s, but there's a good price on a great amp and I was curious about modding it to a different speak selection.
Thanks for the ideas/suggestions!
IM4Tone
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Re: Mod 4x10 amp to a 1x15
I believe the DeVille is 8 ohms, so your choices should be many.
Securb
One of Jerry's Kids
Re: Mod 4x10 amp to a 1x15
I thought 2 ohms sounded a bit strange for a guitar amp. That would be rare even for a bass amp.
I thought 2 ohms sounded a bit strange for a guitar amp. That would be rare even for a bass amp.
Nostalgic Distortion
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Re: Mod 4x10 amp to a 1x15
The 4X10 Fender DeVille's total impedance is 8ohms not 2ohms so as mentioned above you should be able to find many choices for a 15in replacement speaker. Personally I'd also go with a 1x15 extension cabinet instead of replacing the baffle. Of course you could always put the old baffle back in but it's a PIA. The extension will be easier in the long run & a separate 1x15 8ohm cabinet could be used with most other amplifiers since 8ohms is the most common impedance load for modern guitar & bass amp's.
This way you'll leave your 4x10's in place!!! Although you might not be crazy about them but a lot of other people are & actively seek them out. This might help it sell at a later date if you decide to part with it down the road???
The 4X10 Fender DeVille's total impedance is 8ohms not 2ohms so as mentioned above you should be able to find many choices for a 15in replacement speaker. Personally I'd also go with a 1x15 extension cabinet instead of replacing the baffle. Of course you could always put the old baffle back in but it's a PIA. The extension will be easier in the long run & a separate 1x15 8ohm cabinet could be used with most other amplifiers since 8ohms is the most common impedance load for modern guitar & bass amp's.
This way you'll leave your 4x10's in place!!! Although you might not be crazy about them but a lot of other people are & actively seek them out. This might help it sell at a later date if you decide to part with it down the road???
Swampy
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Re: Mod 4x10 amp to a 1x15
Man, I love how my 4x10 Sunn sounds. Punchy as a Mother Phuggar. Though, I do also like my Or15 through my 15" Emi. I would LOVE to play the Orange through both. Hmmmm, May be my project today. Just gotta see if I have to change the wiring in the Sunn. Sorry for the derail, but you got me on a mission. LOL
As Securb said, try to find a cheap 1x15" extension cab. There's always one popping up on CL around here.
Good luck.
Man, I love how my 4x10 Sunn sounds. Punchy as a Mother Phuggar. Though, I do also like my Or15 through my 15" Emi. I would LOVE to play the Orange through both. Hmmmm, May be my project today. Just gotta see if I have to change the wiring in the Sunn. Sorry for the derail, but you got me on a mission. LOL
As Securb said, try to find a cheap 1x15" extension cab. There's always one popping up on CL around here.
Good luck.
Lewguitar
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Re: Mod 4x10 amp to a 1x15
Yeah, I was asking if the Deville is wired the same as the four 10 amps I'm most familiar with: the tweed Bassman and the Super Reverb. Both are 2 ohm amps.
So if the Deville uses four 10" 8 ohm speakers for an 8 ohm speaker load, it must be wired like a Marshall cabinet: two pairs of speakers in series for 16 ohms for each pair...and then each pair combined in parallel to get it back to 8 ohms.
Yeah, I was asking if the Deville is wired the same as the four 10 amps I'm most familiar with: the tweed Bassman and the Super Reverb. Both are 2 ohm amps.
So if the Deville uses four 10" 8 ohm speakers for an 8 ohm speaker load, it must be wired like a Marshall cabinet: two pairs of speakers in series for 16 ohms for each pair...and then each pair combined in parallel to get it back to 8 ohms.
Gearjoneser
Gear Ho
Re: Mod 4x10 amp to a 1x15
I think you'd be better off finding a Fender 212 Deville.
IMO, It's a better sounding speaker configuration for that amp, and they're fairly common in the same used price range as the 410.
I think you'd be better off finding a Fender 212 Deville.
IMO, It's a better sounding speaker configuration for that amp, and they're fairly common in the same used price range as the 410.
Chickenwings
Alnico 6/8
Re: Mod 4x10 amp to a 1x15
fwiw, a mate did that to a tweed bassman. Serious amp.
Swapping the baffle alone will help that amp.
Still, if the reason you are doing it is simply to get a fatter, meaner, bassier tone, then you could also consider just putting in some different 10s as well. The stock fender/emis are not great. Look around for a set of old eminence "blue frame" alnicos that fender used to use in their early tweed reissues. Great deep warm tone for not much dough. You can get a metric ton of low end with 4 tens. Just ask any bass player.
fwiw, a mate did that to a tweed bassman. Serious amp.
Swapping the baffle alone will help that amp.
Still, if the reason you are doing it is simply to get a fatter, meaner, bassier tone, then you could also consider just putting in some different 10s as well. The stock fender/emis are not great. Look around for a set of old eminence "blue frame" alnicos that fender used to use in their early tweed reissues. Great deep warm tone for not much dough. You can get a metric ton of low end with 4 tens. Just ask any bass player.
treyhaislip
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Re: Mod 4x10 amp to a 1x15
Thanks for all of the advice! Got several options to consider, thanks again!
Thanks for all of the advice! Got several options to consider, thanks again!
Gearjoneser
Gear Ho
Re: Mod 4x10 amp to a 1x15
I'd always go with 12's over 15's in a guitar amp. 15's always make it sound like you're plugged into a bass amp.
I'd always go with 12's over 15's in a guitar amp. 15's always make it sound like you're plugged into a bass amp.
Securb
One of Jerry's Kids
Re: Mod 4x10 amp to a 1x15
I have never experience that phenomenon and I have two amps with 15's. I find they are fuller but I do not get the loose low end I get plugging into a bass amp.
FWIW I love the sound of a guitar through a bass amp especially the old 4x10 Fender Bassman amps.
I have never experience that phenomenon and I have two amps with 15's. I find they are fuller but I do not get the loose low end I get plugging into a bass amp.
FWIW I love the sound of a guitar through a bass amp especially the old 4x10 Fender Bassman amps.
IM4Tone
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treyhaislip
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Re: Mod 4x10 amp to a 1x15
I agree, played in a Jazz group with an ES335 copy through a 15'' speaker bass amp that sounded very full but was never flubby...really mixed well with the group.
I agree, played in a Jazz group with an ES335 copy through a 15'' speaker bass amp that sounded very full but was never flubby...really mixed well with the group.
Vasshu the humanoid typhoon
Unseen
Re: Mod 4x10 amp to a 1x15
I am still looking for the Peavey Classic with a 15" speaker
Love that sound!
I am still looking for the Peavey Classic with a 15" speaker
Love that sound!
