MXR Script vs Block - check out Mick Mars cover guitar rag
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Big Flannel
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Re: MXR Script vs Block - check out Mick Mars cover guitar rag
The only similarity is that they're both orange.
The only similarity is that they're both orange.
Securb
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Re: MXR Script vs Block - check out Mick Mars cover guitar rag
It could be put out there by MXR to bump up the new market vs the used market, they don't get royalties on their pedals. There is a difference in the Phase 90's it is subtle but it is there. I know the newer Distortion+ sound nothing like the older non-led versions that change is more drastic.
It could be put out there by MXR to bump up the new market vs the used market, they don't get royalties on their pedals. There is a difference in the Phase 90's it is subtle but it is there. I know the newer Distortion+ sound nothing like the older non-led versions that change is more drastic.
Rich_S
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Maybe he was referring to the oldest block-logo pedals. Those Phase 90s were pretty much just script models with new graphics. Later, they added an LED. There are no hard lines in Phase 90 (or any other pedal) development. Transitions occur slowly over time.
In the end, there are some significant differences between an original script Phase 90 and a modern M101, but they didn't occur all at once.
Maybe he was referring to the oldest block-logo pedals. Those Phase 90s were pretty much just script models with new graphics. Later, they added an LED. There are no hard lines in Phase 90 (or any other pedal) development. Transitions occur slowly over time.
In the end, there are some significant differences between an original script Phase 90 and a modern M101, but they didn't occur all at once.
ErikH
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Correct. The the very very early block logos have the same circuit as the script logo. After that is when there were changes to the circuit and such as Rich mentioned.
Correct. The the very very early block logos have the same circuit as the script logo. After that is when there were changes to the circuit and such as Rich mentioned.
ErikH
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I picked up that issue yesterday. Read the articles with Nikki and Mick, just haven't read that one yet.
As the circuit started to changed post-very early block logo, or 1st Gen Block, that's where you start to have the differences. I used to have pics that showed the differences between each circuit as it changed.
I picked up that issue yesterday. Read the articles with Nikki and Mick, just haven't read that one yet.
As the circuit started to changed post-very early block logo, or 1st Gen Block, that's where you start to have the differences. I used to have pics that showed the differences between each circuit as it changed.
Re: MXR Script vs Block - check out Mick Mars cover guitar rag
The later block logo Phase 90's added the feedback circuit, which gives that extra "swish" to the sound, which is very noticeable when you use a distorted amp or pedals. The "Script" circuit has no feedback, and that's why it sounds better IMO with distortion. The early block logos had pretty much the Script circuit (with subtle changes), but later block logos added the feedback, which is what Dunlop decided to clone when they first started making the MXR pedals again. So there is a pretty noticeable difference in the sound of a "late" block logo (or early Dunlop MXR) Phase 90 from the Script and early block logo pedals. So, I think that article is misleading. There were other small changes to the circuits along the line, but the feedback circuit addition is the biggest change they made. The early EVH Phase 90 sound is a script circuit. The circuit with the feedback sounds all right with clean sounds and keyboard guys like them, but with distortion the extreme swish can become annoying IMO.
Al
The later block logo Phase 90's added the feedback circuit, which gives that extra "swish" to the sound, which is very noticeable when you use a distorted amp or pedals. The "Script" circuit has no feedback, and that's why it sounds better IMO with distortion. The early block logos had pretty much the Script circuit (with subtle changes), but later block logos added the feedback, which is what Dunlop decided to clone when they first started making the MXR pedals again. So there is a pretty noticeable difference in the sound of a "late" block logo (or early Dunlop MXR) Phase 90 from the Script and early block logo pedals. So, I think that article is misleading. There were other small changes to the circuits along the line, but the feedback circuit addition is the biggest change they made. The early EVH Phase 90 sound is a script circuit. The circuit with the feedback sounds all right with clean sounds and keyboard guys like them, but with distortion the extreme swish can become annoying IMO.
Al
Big Flannel
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Since we're talking about vintage, I politely retract my previous statement. I have no experience with the vintage block logo and thought we were talking about the modern variety.
Since we're talking about vintage, I politely retract my previous statement. I have no experience with the vintage block logo and thought we were talking about the modern variety.
Boogie Bill
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So how does the new EVH Phase 90 fit into this? Is the Script mode accurate?
Bill
So how does the new EVH Phase 90 fit into this? Is the Script mode accurate?
Bill
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My understanding is that the EVH Phase 90 just has a button that removes R28 (the mod that many do) from the stock Dunlop block logo Phase 90 circuit. It doesn't go all the way to the original Phase 90 circuit, which requires other component changes. For that, the newer Dunlop MXR Custom Shop handwired Phase 90 has the complete script circuit (again, I prefer the Whirlwind Orange Box, which also has the original script circuit, but adds the modern conveniences of LED and true bypass, which the Dunlop handwired script Phase 90 doesn't have).
Al
My understanding is that the EVH Phase 90 just has a button that removes R28 (the mod that many do) from the stock Dunlop block logo Phase 90 circuit. It doesn't go all the way to the original Phase 90 circuit, which requires other component changes. For that, the newer Dunlop MXR Custom Shop handwired Phase 90 has the complete script circuit (again, I prefer the Whirlwind Orange Box, which also has the original script circuit, but adds the modern conveniences of LED and true bypass, which the Dunlop handwired script Phase 90 doesn't have).
Al
Boogie Bill
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I'll have to check out the Whirlwind. Thanks!
Bill
I'll have to check out the Whirlwind. Thanks!
Bill
Aceman
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Re: MXR Script vs Block - check out Mick Mars cover guitar rag
I played a Whirlwind once - it was pretty awesome.
The EVH question is interesting as there was a phaser mod thread a bit ago.
And….we ALL love the EVH script mode. Go check out Astro's modded phase thread.
I played a Whirlwind once - it was pretty awesome.
The EVH question is interesting as there was a phaser mod thread a bit ago.
And….we ALL love the EVH script mode. Go check out Astro's modded phase thread.
astrozombie
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the modern block model sounds like ****. it distorts the tone at the top of the cycle. I don't like this at all, a good phaser should enhance your tone not destroy it.
the modern block model sounds like ****. it distorts the tone at the top of the cycle. I don't like this at all, a good phaser should enhance your tone not destroy it.
Big Flannel
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That's the feedback control. Some phasers have a trim-poor under the hood for adjusting to taste.
That's the feedback control. Some phasers have a trim-poor under the hood for adjusting to taste.
astrozombie
KatyPerryologist
Re: MXR Script vs Block - check out Mick Mars cover guitar rag
I clipped the resistor out.
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I clipped the resistor out.
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Aceman
I am your doctor of love!
Re: MXR Script vs Block - check out Mick Mars cover guitar rag
Unless you WANT that gnarly little rasp at the top…..
One man's splatty dog poo squish sound is another man's earvana.
Unless you WANT that gnarly little rasp at the top…..
One man's splatty dog poo squish sound is another man's earvana.
astrozombie
KatyPerryologist
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I get you. I want something that will swish but not distort.
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I get you. I want something that will swish but not distort.
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JeffB
Let it B
Re: MXR Script vs Block - check out Mick Mars cover guitar rag
Another vote for the Whirlwind here. I like the MXR 74 reissue, but to me the Whirlwind sounds more like the original MXR I had., and has the benefit of TB, LED, and DC power (for similar price, but I got mine like new through the Tele discussion page for the price of a new block logo Phase90).
EVH was OK, but did not do much for me.
Another vote for the Whirlwind here. I like the MXR 74 reissue, but to me the Whirlwind sounds more like the original MXR I had., and has the benefit of TB, LED, and DC power (for similar price, but I got mine like new through the Tele discussion page for the price of a new block logo Phase90).
EVH was OK, but did not do much for me.
