My evaluation of the Mesa Lonestar

Osensei

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I've been looking for a good gig amp lately. Having tested out some Mark IV's and DC's back when stores had plenty of them, I've been drawn to the LoneStar combo.

First let me say that right now my interest is in straight ahead clean jazz tone. But I plan to delve into other idioms like Classic Rock and Fusion once I get the clean jazz down. Once I have my clean repetoire together then I plan to move on to these other styles.

Well one thing is for sure! The thing does not suffer from lack of power! Sheesh! I quote another forum member when I say, "You can get rid of your hair dryer!". :smokin: I noticed the price tag flapping in a horizontal configuration while I was playing as if it was taped to the back of a sports car going 100 miles an hour! :laugh2:

Guys that play traditional jazz guitar are somewhat different, however to their Rock counterparts when it comes to a BOOMY BASS tone. While Rock cats aren't particularly fond of a boomy low end, Jazz cats love it just like they love BIG BUTT WOMEN! The few times that I got to test out the Lonestar seemed to reveal that it's somewhat lacking in this department. Rather than the boomy bass (big butt - tone that I seem to be able to readily dial in on a Marshall, lets say) I get a much more limited bass response (flat ironing board butt)! :chairfall

Altogether its a very sweet amp! It's got plenty of headroom and is capable of being driven very hard while remaining clean. At the same time it posses some really sweet classic distorted tones that are full of harmonics (at least to my ears)! Because of the limited bottom end response though, it seems to be marketed more to rockers than jazz cats.

I'm not particularly fond of Boogies reverb tanks either! They seem to be a little drier than I like my reverb tanks to be.

In summary, it seems to me that Marshall is still in the lead here when it comes to being able to dial in the types of tones that I'm fooling around with these days. That's not to say that I reached my final verdict yet! I plan to spend more time at the local shop with the Lonstar. It could be that I'm just not familiar enough with the amp and all of it's features just yet. So I'll continue to investigate since I'm in no hurry to buy.

The local shop whose name you all know, but who shall remain nameless really sucks! They don't have a sound-proof room because their AH manager converted it into his private office! :censored: Then most of their amps aren't plugged in and don't have chords. So you say ask a salesperson for help, right? :laugh2: Yeah, right! Those cats don't even know how to turn most of the amps on! :laugh2: I can't tell you the number of customers sitting in front of a silent amp as they strum the strings and wonder why the thing won't make a sound! Meanwhile the salesperson is standing behind em scratching their head as well! :laugh2:

Give me your thoughts!
 
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Re: My evaluation of the Mesa Lonestar

The Lonestar is a cool amp. However, in that price range I think there are a lot of better options. To me, there's a clean tone and a high gain tone. They try and make it like a blues or rock tone, but to me it just sounds strange. Maybe I'm painting the amps with one broad stroke, but IMO Mesa is at it's best for high gain. Sure they have a lot of versatile amps, but RARELY do you hear people say that they bought a Mesa for it's clean tone alone. Just like Fenders don't make for good high gain amps. It's just not their forte.

If you want a GREAT jazz clean, I'd check out a Polytone or a Roland Jazz Chorus. If you wanna delve into some other styles, there are tons of amazing pedals for dirt. But if you want a real versatile amp, I'd imagine a Bogner Shiva head isn't TOO much more.
 
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SC21 is right on that one... The "cleans" already have a hint of Texas Blues... Don't get me wrong, it's a good tone, but you can't clean it up anymore... I haven't been able to find an amp that does it ALL well, so I went with the cleans... You can always find a good analog pedal to kick in the crotch or even send it well into distortion...

And for ~$1600, you could buy a great deal of other cool toys!
 
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its funny that you say that about the bass, cause i've always disliked just about every Mesa ive played for the boomy bottom end it had.
 
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flank said:
its funny that you say that about the bass, cause i've always disliked just about every Mesa ive played for the boomy bottom end it had.

That's precisely why can cannot discern what the hell Santana is playing when he's playing in the lower register. That's also why I agree that it sounds like crap if your playing rock! But those are most likely Mark I's not LoneStars. And that's Santana playing rock, not jazz.

Now that you mention it some of the retired Boogies like Mark IV might be more the ticket. How about those instead?
 
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The Road king series one has a sweet jazz tone depending on how you set it. You cn get a sound that is very fender twin like and many jazz tones have come from those. Mesas catalogs show let ritenour playing through a road king head/stack set up and lee ritenour is a Jazz giant! Plus you have the recto distortion and the sweet and versital vintage channel. I tried the lonestar and and the sound to me was texas blues, very nice but it did not have the gain i wanted.
 
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The Mark series are supposed to be VERY versatile. I played one recently and granted, it wasn't dialed in "right" and I sorta just fiddled with it and a strat...but I didn't hear anything that blew me away or even made me think 'that's kinda cool.' Maybe I'm missing something. I was never huge on the Mesa tone to begin with. I'm more of a Marshall or Vox guy for dirt.

Also, why so set on a Mesa? There are loads of good, versatile amps in that price range.
 
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really its just a matter of taste. I have heard some excellent marshall tones but for the most part mesa fits where i am right now.
 
Re: My evaluation of the Mesa Lonestar

You may want to check out the Blue Angel for jazz- no overdrive channel, no master volume, a deep reverb, and lots of bass. Stays clean until it is crazy loud. Works well with pedals too.
 
Re: My evaluation of the Mesa Lonestar

mesas are awesome - basically my favorite amps

lonestar is country

I wouldn't look too hard at the mark IV or road king since they both posess mass distortion metal channels; amps are a give and take even if well rounded like mark IV and road king; and if metal is not something on your agenda of music to play I would suggest researching other amps known for cleans like blue angel imo
 
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