My review of the Genz-Benz El Diablo 60C

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I bought this Genz-Benz El-Diablo 60 watts 1 x 12 combo in December on eBay and I’ve been using it regularly in rehearsal for the last 3 months. So I finally figured that it was time that I gave you guys my impressions of the thing...

Features:

-60 watts in pentode mode, 30 watts in triode accessible with a switch at the back.
-El34 or 6L6 tubes (GB states that the wattages are actually 50 watts and 25 when using 6L6) interchangeable via a switch at the back.
-External bias check-point.
-2 independent channels (labelled warm and hot respectively), both with independent volume, eq sections (active), and reverb control.
-Master volume, master reverb, tube contour (hot channel only)
-Footswicheable global attack function (basically a mid-boost for soloing) for which the level of boost can be pre-determined via a knob on the front-panel
-Footswitcheable compression (not adjustable)
-“Classic” and “High” gain characters for the hot channel.
-12” Genz-Benz speaker
-4-button footswitch with bright LEDs.
-Stock Ruby Tubes (12 ax7 and EL34s) except for V1 of the pre-amp which is a JJ 12ax7cz.

90% of my testing was done in the triode mode for volume considerations (I do realize that the tone is changed somewhat but the amp is so loud that I don’t really consider testing with both the master and pre-amp volume on 2 as being adequate test settings; and that’s in the rehearsal room with the full-band). With said full band (2 guitars, bass, vocals and a heavy-handed drummer) I can hardly get the master past 5 or 6 and the hot-channel’s pre-amp volume past 3… Everything’s a little lower for the warm channel. With the pentode mode, I couldn’t get the master further than 2, maybe 3… I did 3 rehearsals with the stock Rubys and then switch the pre-amp tubes to Tung-sols and the power tubes to Shuguang (these sounded quite similar to the Rubys actually, I also have a set of EH el34s that I’ll pop in there eventually).

Warm channel: This is the clean channel. It stays very clean at higher volumes, even when really diggin’ in. When the gain is almost dimed, there is some break-up but I found that the hot channel with very little gain sounds better for this application.
-With EL34s and using my LP Classic with a Custom in the bridge and a Seth Lover in the neck, the tone is very pleasant. Please bear in mind that I’ve never played for long periods through a good Fender and I always thought that the cleans on my JCM 800 4210 50-watter were “quite useable with the right pick-ups and string attack”, I’m by no means a clean-tone specialist although a good clean channel is something I need and appreciate. The cleans are deep, warm and, IMHO, rich. They were very chimey and responsive. The reverb helped a lot, it can get very wet and deep, wich is great. The interaction between the channel’s reverb control and the master-reverb can change the characteristics of the reverb itself. I experienced a lot and then found out that this is something that the user’s manual also points out… With the master higher, the reverb can get kinda “splashy”, which sounds very nice IMO, this is where I keep mine for my clean sounds…very sweet.
-With 6L6, the cleans remained sweet but lost a bit of their chimey characteristics and sounded a bit more focused to me. Still, I enjoyed them a lot.
The global attack for the clean channel makes everything stand out a little more. Cut through better for leads as you’d expect.

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Re: My review of the Genz-Benz El Diablo 60C

Hot channel:
-With El34s: The amp’s hot channel has a lot of mids. If you read reviews on the net, you’ll see that a lot of folks state that the amp has a voice of its own, as opposed to be strictly a Boogie/Marshall clone. My perception is that this “difference” is mostly expressed through the mids. They are very prominent and sound like nothing else I’ve heard. I did like them a lot and believe that they sound very good but again, I always enjoy being a little different. They definitely cut through the mix nicely (they can definitely be overbearing when adjusted too high), without having any fizziness to them, they remain quite focused with a throaty growl, which I enjoyed. In the “Classic” gain mode, the gain can get from low Rock’a’billy territory to a nice heavy marshallesque crunch. In the “High” gain mode, you really hear why this amp is marketed towards the metal-players: There is a lot of gain available. Scooping the mids on the Eq doesn’t make for a mud-fest as some other amps tend to do, the sound still manages to cut through nicely with a little eq’ing and stays tight and focused without being overly bright or boomy (which it can get if you want it to). You really can get in the recto-territory but without the fizzy-buzziness that you can hear sometimes when guitar players scoop too much and add too much gain. The amp can tend to sound a bit dark with scooped settings and that’s where the “tube contour” knob comes into play. This knob is basically an extra tone-stack, which allows to shape a bit further the tone, in this case, allowing us to put some clarity back in to the mix. Adding the compression makes for a really tight, percussive distortion which is a chugga-chugga player’s dream and really shakes the floor and walls. I found the global attack really useful for soloing: it’s not a volume boost but is really helpful to be heard clearly while soloing. Some people would rather use a volume boost and that function won’t cut it if that’s what you’re after (I don’t believe the dB gain would be enough for most people wanting to just boost the volume). However, it works fine for my applications.
-I then switched the power-tubes to JJ’s 6L6GC (I was curious and happy to be able to really A/B the two tube types in the same amp). I read a few reviews which stated that this made the amp into an even better metal amp. As stated earlier, the cleans lost some of their chime but were still very very good, just different, not really worse or better. For the hot channel, 6L6s indeed turned the amp into a different machine. Mids were a bit less prominent and the overall sound on the high-gain became even more focused and tight, I really really liked it for the more brutal applications but it also sounded great with less gain. The “Classic” settings sounded a little less raw than they did with the EL34 but had a pleasant overdriven tone… I wouldn’t go as far as other reviewers did by saying that EL34s are wrong for that amp, but I will say that it did help to tame those mids that folks seem to be sometimes turned-off by since they are very particular. Switching tubes to 6L6 therefore has the effect of making the amp sound more akin to the rectos or even 5150s (depending on the settings used), which is probably why people tend to prefer them. It won’t completely sound like the aforementioned amps (I believe that rectos do have more gain on tap than the Diablo) but it has more gain than I can use and I’ve been playing a lot of modern metal and hardcore with it, as well as some punk and other heavy rock music. For now, the 6L6s will stay.


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Design-wise, the Diablo is a very sturdy amp and a heavy one. This combo is bigger than any 1 x 12 combo amp I’ve owned or seen. The back is almost closed, being ported at the top in order to ensure proper tube ventilation. The metal knobs do not turn freely, they go by fine “clicks” (maybe 5-6 clicks between each number on the dial), which make it easier to remember the settings and might help you not knocking the settings off by accident. The active EQ is a very nice tone-shaping tool, a few clicks are enough to drastically change the tone of the amp. The speaker sounds fine to my ears, making the amp responsive and cutting with great bass response. I’m yet to try it through an external cab.
The only aspect where I would have something negative to write regarding the design is this: changing the pre-amp tubes was a PITA: The retainers (little rubber rings) are held in place via a metal rod and a screw. However, due to their placement and the speaker’s position, the v3 tube was extremely hard to remove. No screwdriver, as short as it was, was short enough to allow unscrewing the ring. Therefore, in order to remove it without removing the speaker, I had to use a screwdriver bit, clamp it in a vise-grip and proceed with that… waste of time and far from being practical for a failing tube during a gig… I didn’t replace the 1st tube since the JJ sounded good and was supposedly chosen for its “low-microphonic characteristics” by Genz-Benz, once I manage to select another fine low-microphonic tube based on some testing, I’ll go and swap it in order to see what it can do. However, it is hidden all the way behind the output transformer where there’s almost no room to do anything… I’m still contemplating how I’ll manage to take this one out without removing the speaker.

Bottom line: This is a really versatile amp, with what I hear as a very good clean channel and a very versatile second one. The ability to switch from triode to pentode and also switch between EL34 and 6L6 are great tools in order to taylor one’s tone. I believe that the hot channel could almost cover any ground, from slight break-up to full-on metal. I believe it is probably more suited to the heavier rock to metal crowd but the clean channel is in my opinion excellent and should therefore make this amp suitable for many more musicians than just the heavy rockers. If like me you need something versatile, this amp, especially for the prices it commands on the used market, is an amazing value. I’d recommend to test-drive one first as it has a voice of its own and a lot of us folks tend to be accustomed to a “certain” sound, but I don’t think one couldn’t find a tone that would really satisfy him.
A little note: if you’re trying one in a store: switch it to the triode mode in order to be able to push it a little and definitely spend more than 5 minutes with it… it may need some tweaking to realize how versatile it is. Finding a tone that satisfied me did not take long, but fine-tuning it to something that made me grin with satisfaction took a little more time.

This thing retails for $1500 (Canadian) at my local music store. I got mine on eBay for ~1/3 of that in practically new conditions. Now that I have spent time with it, I wouldn’t hesitate to spend the full-price to buy one… I believe it is that good.
 
Re: My review of the Genz-Benz El Diablo 60C

Thanks man, it's definitely a great amp (IMHO)... they're not popular so far, which makes them an amazing value on the used market... go for it, I got mine for 460$ off the bay.
 
Re: My review of the Genz-Benz El Diablo 60C

got my 100 head for 800 on the bay, well worth it to look used
 
Re: My review of the Genz-Benz El Diablo 60C

Great review. I've been considering one of these for a couple of years.
 
Re: My review of the Genz-Benz El Diablo 60C

****, that's a steal, I kind of wish I would have given one of these a shot instead of my Rivera...how is the amp as far as noise when you're pushing the gain? Lots of hiss and hum or is it fairly quiet?
 
Re: My review of the Genz-Benz El Diablo 60C

****, that's a steal, I kind of wish I would have given one of these a shot instead of my Rivera...how is the amp as far as noise when you're pushing the gain? Lots of hiss and hum or is it fairly quiet?
I've been pushing it a lot and there's very minimal hum (as expected with cascading gain) but no hiss so far... very quiet.
 
Re: My review of the Genz-Benz El Diablo 60C

I have to say that my 60C has not made me want another dual channel amp at all. It is the most usable amp for nearly everything for me. For me it is a great amp. I have no intention of selling it. I do want a Black Pearle as well.
 
Re: My review of the Genz-Benz El Diablo 60C

The clips I've heard of the black pearl definitely make me want one...
 
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I love my El Diablo 60 head. You're making me curious about putting 6L6's in there now.

I agree with what you say about the mids being prominent. Bearing in mind that the tone controls are active, I boost the treble just a bit and actually cut back the mids a few db to get a nice classic rock tone. With the gain set between 2 and 5 it reminds me a lot of that warmer crunch tone you hear on rock albums from the early 70's. Alex Lifeson's tones on albums up through "Farewell to Kings" comes to mind. This amp can get close to that.

With the gain a little higher and the compressed switch on, it does a decent 80's metal tone. Engage the attack switch and it cuts through for soloing. There's plenty of sustain for tapping and legato licks.

Cut the mids some more, engage the high gain and compressed switches, maybe turn the treble and bass up some more and it does a great modern metal tone. I actually like it better than a REcto tone because the high end is smooth, whereas the high end on Recto's can be harsh.

I'm not looking to nail the tone of any certain amp. I'm fine with it being a little different but sounding great. The El Diablo is one of those amps where you have to do some experimentation with all the switches, gain and the EQ knobs. I've found that when you do that, it covers a lot of bases.

I have also discovered that like a lot of tube amps, it sounds better turned up loud. There's more attack, more punch, a tighter bottom when it's cranked. I'm glad mine is only 60 watts.
 
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I love my El Diablo 60 head. You're making me curious about putting 6L6's in there now.

I agree with what you say about the mids being prominent. Bearing in mind that the tone controls are active, I boost the treble just a bit and actually cut back the mids a few db to get a nice classic rock tone. With the gain set between 2 and 5 it reminds me a lot of that warmer crunch tone you hear on rock albums from the early 70's. Alex Lifeson's tones on albums up through "Farewell to Kings" comes to mind. This amp can get close to that.

With the gain a little higher and the compressed switch on, it does a decent 80's metal tone. Engage the attack switch and it cuts through for soloing. There's plenty of sustain for tapping and legato licks.

Cut the mids some more, engage the high gain and compressed switches, maybe turn the treble and bass up some more and it does a great modern metal tone. I actually like it better than a REcto tone because the high end is smooth, whereas the high end on Recto's can be harsh.

I'm not looking to nail the tone of any certain amp. I'm fine with it being a little different but sounding great. The El Diablo is one of those amps where you have to do some experimentation with all the switches, gain and the EQ knobs. I've found that when you do that, it covers a lot of bases.

I have also discovered that like a lot of tube amps, it sounds better turned up loud. There's more attack, more punch, a tighter bottom when it's cranked. I'm glad mine is only 60 watts.
My feelings exactly...

and yes, you really need to at least give the 6l6s a try... ;)
 
Re: My review of the Genz-Benz El Diablo 60C

Somehow I missed this review when you originally posted it. Great job and perhaps the most articulate and comprehensive review of the amp I've read so far. I especially liked reading of your comparison between tubes. I have the same amp, bought used, and it came with 6L6s so I've never heard it stock. I agree with the 5150 & recto comparisons, just with less of the "fizz" I tend to associate with those amps. And while overall I am happy with the amp I admit it can be a challenge for me coaxing certain sounds out of it. Primarily a decent lead tone. The compression and global attack tend to help but I'm still not quite there. Because of all the built-in versatility the amp offers I'm still convinced my sound is somewhere in there. Just not quite sure where. I'm considering changing to El34s in hopes of getting a sweeter, snappier Strat lead tone but I don't want to sacrifice the brutal crunch I can now get with humbuckers.
 
Re: My review of the Genz-Benz El Diablo 60C

Somehow I missed this review when you originally posted it. Great job and perhaps the most articulate and comprehensive review of the amp I've read so far. I especially liked reading of your comparison between tubes. I have the same amp, bought used, and it came with 6L6s so I've never heard it stock. I agree with the 5150 & recto comparisons, just with less of the "fizz" I tend to associate with those amps. And while overall I am happy with the amp I admit it can be a challenge for me coaxing certain sounds out of it. Primarily a decent lead tone. The compression and global attack tend to help but I'm still not quite there. Because of all the built-in versatility the amp offers I'm still convinced my sound is somewhere in there. Just not quite sure where. I'm considering changing to El34s in hopes of getting a sweeter, snappier Strat lead tone but I don't want to sacrifice the brutal crunch I can now get with humbuckers.
Thank you for the kind words Gamera, I don't write reviews often but I try to do the best I can when I do. You're one of the guys who got me interested in that amp in the first place too so thank you for that :).

El34s will still retain the amp's crushing brutal gain, there's no worry about that. I'm not a strat-guy by any mean, but I do believe that the EL34s do make the amp livelier, brighter... snappier must not be that far down the road.

I too am still working on my tone. I'm 90% there but, while being a really simple amp, it's still so versatile that I need to tweak it again a little... the tube change was beneficial for me (although I still loved it with EL34s) but now I need to tweak it some more due to that fact. I'm defninitely in love with the clean and the brutal gain is something I've been looking for for years. I love that I can get really high gain tones without the fizziness... now all I need is to smooth it out just a little again and I'll be in paradise regarding what tone I need...
 
Re: My review of the Genz-Benz El Diablo 60C

Yeah, the clean channel on these amps is really, really good. A fact that many folks tend to overlook I think on an amp named "El Diablo." The name alone implies searing metal gain. While it's capable of delivering that, the warm channel has lots of potential also.
 
Re: My review of the Genz-Benz El Diablo 60C

I should get me one.Great review I appreciate it.
 
Re: My review of the Genz-Benz El Diablo 60C

Ive been wondering about this amp also.. it seems every time someone speaks of it, it reminds me of my old Laney VC50 combo. If its anything like it was, I may seriously consider finding one.

How do you think it compares brit?
 
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