NAD : Fender Excelsior

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An impulse buy to be quite honest.

Woke up yesterday, decided I had had a **** week and I wanted to go and grab a toy. So I vaguely remembered playing one of these in the store a while back, and decided to pick one up. Didn't bother plugging it in ; I have this new thing where I grab pedals or gear and just work with it, to try and find the strong points in the object and work around it's flaws, rather than try and get just the right gear every time. Makes life interesting.

So I head to my dad's house before jam. He's my audio reference, and verbalizes his thoughts quite eloquently when it comes to what he hears. So I plug in with my Fender Strat, with an MXR Custom Badass Overdrive and a Fulltone Plimsoul. Then, I do the same with my ES339. Here are our observations, that I confirmed while jamming with the full band a few hours after. I usually gig with a Blues Jr, so my observations are all relative to this amp.

- The amp is very transparent. It displays very little colouring of the tone, and will almost come off as bland is not hit by some sort of effect (reverb or light delay at a minimum). This transparency however, is an asset for certain styles of music (jazz for example) with a good guitar producing good overtones.
- The amp is brutally honest. Play a crappy guitar into it, and it will sound crappy. This goes with the transparency. We plugged in a squier I had in the basement, and it wasn't pretty.
- The amp take pedals very well. The amp really comes to life with a bit of delay. Distortions and overdrives are pleasant. I like my wah throaty, and this amp delivers a nice deep rasp.
- The 15 inch driver produces a nice mellow high range, which is a good thing, since the amp tends to be extremely bright. There is a bright or dark switch, and I have found the bright side of things to be almost unusable. It produces a very clear, but very shrill sound. I suppose it could be useful to some, who would want to use a Jazzbox's single neck located pickup with extreme definition. Not for most though.
- Overdrives tend to be very raw and organic sounding. The amp doesn't saturate as quickly as my Blues Jr, and even with higher gain pedals, the vintage designed nature of the amp comes through.

Overall, a good one trick pony that can be augmented with a decent pedal setup. A good inexpensive amp for those looking for an honest, raw, vintage style rock sound with it's quirks. For those seeking anything from a White Stripes of Black Keys garage tone, to a Nirvana grunge vibe, or even a nice raw blues tone, or a bright surf tone... this could be for you. Just make sure you have the guitar to put behind it.
 
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Yeah I like those things.

I wana get one and learn to do some mods... put a bright / dark knob, a better speaker, and a footswitch for the trem...
 
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It already has a bright dark switch, but a tone knob is certainly a feature that could be useful to the design, and that some guys are putting on it already. The footswitch jack for the trem would also have been nice, but for 299$ retail, I guess you can't really complain.

Mike will most likely see a Eminence Big Ben in the next few months.....
 
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You make it sound pretty appealing. It might be just the home amp I need so I can keep my Bassman at my rehearsal space.
 
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I know I'm going to pick one up at some point. There's 3 good Eminence choices...the Big Ben, Commonwealth, and Legend 1518.

I'll definitely want a pot kit to replace the hi/lo switch.

Those two mods will probably improve the amp greatly. Other than that, there may be some minor mods for the three inputs to improve the sound each of them have.

This is an amp that I wish would have had these final tweaks before shipping, then add to the cost accordingly. Other than that, you've got a great looking amp that's a bit under-baked performance-wise.
 
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No comment on the tremolo?

Also, I agree the Bright switch on those is pretty much unusable, but they might be more handy for other applications outside guitar.
 
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Well done. I'm not in the market for a new amp right now (I have five sitting around my basement right now, ridiculous for a non-gigging guitarist). But well done.

Do you see the Excelsior replacing the Blues Jr. in your gigging?
 
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I know I'm going to pick one up at some point. There's 3 good Eminence choices...the Big Ben, Commonwealth, and Legend 1518.

I'm thinking the Big Ben would sound great. Would probably sound really mellow in the highs and tighten up the bass response a bit.

No comment on the tremolo?

Also, I agree the Bright switch on those is pretty much unusable, but they might be more handy for other applications outside guitar.

It would probably be super useful for slide guitar. As far as the trem is concerned, it's very very old school. As far as criticism goes, I think the only thing I dislike about it is that is gets really choppy when set to a slower rate. It's almost intermittent when compared to some pedals I've tried. With that said, very usable, very cool, very vintage style.

Well done. I'm not in the market for a new amp right now (I have five sitting around my basement right now, ridiculous for a non-gigging guitarist). But well done.

Do you see the Excelsior replacing the Blues Jr. in your gigging?

Making guest appearances maybe, but not fully replacing it. The BJ has a nice reverb that can add a little depth to any room, specially when combined with the 3 band EQ. It's more versatile all around, making it a better choice for gigging. The 15w of power, although only 2 watts louder than the Excelsior, makes it much louder overall. It just projects like a canon, where the Excelsior fills the room in a more ambient fashion. Great for rhythm playing, but it lacks some of the bunch I would want out of my leads. If you are playing in a garage rock type band though, and you want to cut through the mix with your super saturated highs White Stripes' style, then it might be for you.

I recommend this amp as a good addition to an amp lineup ; not as a replacement to a single gigging amp. I would never have this as my one and only.
 
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.........Making guest appearances maybe, but not fully replacing it. The BJ has a nice reverb that can add a little depth to any room, specially when combined with the 3 band EQ. It's more versatile all around, making it a better choice for gigging. The 15w of power, although only 2 watts louder than the Excelsior, makes it much louder overall. It just projects like a canon, where the Excelsior fills the room in a more ambient fashion. Great for rhythm playing, but it lacks some of the bunch I would want out of my leads. If you are playing in a garage rock type band though, and you want to cut through the mix with your super saturated highs White Stripes' style, then it might be for you.

I recommend this amp as a good addition to an amp lineup ; not as a replacement to a single gigging amp. I would never have this as my one and only.
I'd agree with most of this, except that with the Legend 1518, the Excelsior is louder than the BJ and projects leads very well with your favorite OD pedal. Plus just add a Boss RV-5 &/or DD-3 for reverb and slapback.....sweet!
 
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Cool. I'd love to give one of those little things a blast. Congrats, dude. :beerchug:
 
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I ordered one from my local store . . . now i am playign the waiting game.

I really like them for what they are . . . super cheap lo-fi garage rock amps.



 
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I know I'm going to pick one up at some point. There's 3 good Eminence choices...the Big Ben, Commonwealth, and Legend 1518.

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I am looking into the (yes seriously) Jensen Neo 300.

On B&W it looks like something i would want in this amp :


http://www.jensentone.com/speaker/neo_15_300


"Dominant low-end and subtle highs. It responds to overdrive distortion with gritty, crunch rhythm and bass heavy fuzz lead voice."



Resonance Frequency : 42.8Hz

Sensitivity : 99.1 dB



So my train-of-thought is that this driver will give the amp a warmer & fuzzier tone with a stronger low-end character . . . atleast that is what i hope for.
 
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I am looking into the (yes seriously) Jensen Neo 300.

On B&W it looks like something i would want in this amp :


http://www.jensentone.com/speaker/neo_15_300


"Dominant low-end and subtle highs. It responds to overdrive distortion with gritty, crunch rhythm and bass heavy fuzz lead voice."



Resonance Frequency : 42.8Hz

Sensitivity : 99.1 dB



So my train-of-thought is that this driver will give the amp a warmer & fuzzier tone with a stronger low-end character . . . atleast that is what i hope for.
1) I doubt I'd ever pay nearly as much for the speaker as I did for the amp.
2) You're not likely to get the "response to overdrive distortion with gritty, crunch rhythm and bass heavy fuzz lead voice" since the amp doesn't have much distortion to give w/o a pedal.
3) Probably get better bass response and lessen the "honk" and nasal character, but the Eminence Legend 1518 does this for just over 1/3 the price AND gives a major volume increase @103.4 db. That volume comes in real handy for gigging. http://www.eminence.com/speakers/speaker-detail/?model=Legend_1518

But hey, to each his own!
 
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