Neck pickup go go with Mo Joe in bridge
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It's in an ibanez rg 655, basswood body, rosewood fretboard. Want articulate, cutting sound, no mush on the bottom end..
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Archer250
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Ascension
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What kind of tone you looking for? PAF Joe is what I used for my ST 300 Carvin with a Gravity Storm and normally would have recommended for those tones with a Mo Joe. The Air Norton would likely be unbalanced with the Mo Joe as it about the same in output so will be louder in the neck. PAF Master neck, Humbucker from Hell , EJ Custom BRIDGE, or Air Classic neck would be my next recommendations.
What kind of tone you looking for? PAF Joe is what I used for my ST 300 Carvin with a Gravity Storm and normally would have recommended for those tones with a Mo Joe. The Air Norton would likely be unbalanced with the Mo Joe as it about the same in output so will be louder in the neck. PAF Master neck, Humbucker from Hell , EJ Custom BRIDGE, or Air Classic neck would be my next recommendations.
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Ascension
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Definitely would not go the Air Norton, PAF Pro or a Liquifier for those type tones. A PAF classic, Air Classic, Humbucker from Hell or EJ Custom bridge maybe?
Definitely would not go the Air Norton, PAF Pro or a Liquifier for those type tones. A PAF classic, Air Classic, Humbucker from Hell or EJ Custom bridge maybe?
Mr. B
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I would avoid the PAF Pro if you don't want a mushy bottom end. Even the Paf Joe and 36th Anniversary have a tighter bottom end. Articulate, cutting sound with no mush on the bottom end sounds like you are describing the Humbucker From Hell. It should work well with the Mo Joe.
I would avoid the PAF Pro if you don't want a mushy bottom end. Even the Paf Joe and 36th Anniversary have a tighter bottom end. Articulate, cutting sound with no mush on the bottom end sounds like you are describing the Humbucker From Hell. It should work well with the Mo Joe.
Ascension
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You guys keep insisting on a 300 MV PAF Pro paired in the neck with the 325 MV Mo Jo in the bridge . I just went through this with a 300 MV Liquifier trying to run it with a 340 MV Gravity Storm in the bridge. To get a balance I had to run the Liquifier all the way down to the top of the ring and then the Gravity Storm almost touching the strings to even come close to getting a balance. The PAF Pro will overpower the Mo Jo in the neck period. My take still is tonally and output wise the PAF Joe or some thing like an Air Classic neck/ Humbucker From Hell is a much better choice.
You are always going to get more output in the neck from any pickup than the bridge because of the wider string rotation creating a stronger signal so that 25 MV difference will at the least disappear in the output if you run the PAF Pro.
You guys keep insisting on a 300 MV PAF Pro paired in the neck with the 325 MV Mo Jo in the bridge . I just went through this with a 300 MV Liquifier trying to run it with a 340 MV Gravity Storm in the bridge. To get a balance I had to run the Liquifier all the way down to the top of the ring and then the Gravity Storm almost touching the strings to even come close to getting a balance. The PAF Pro will overpower the Mo Jo in the neck period. My take still is tonally and output wise the PAF Joe or some thing like an Air Classic neck/ Humbucker From Hell is a much better choice.
You are always going to get more output in the neck from any pickup than the bridge because of the wider string rotation creating a stronger signal so that 25 MV difference will at the least disappear in the output if you run the PAF Pro.
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Teleplayer
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Its not necessarily a bad idea to have a high output neck pickup if you can lower it sufficiently. That is one way to get a brighter tone from an otherwise mid-heavy sounding pickup.
For example I used an Evolution neck with PAF PRO in the bridge. It works because I like the PAF PRO bridge humbucker when raised close to the strings, and it has plenty of output.
I would suggest the OP to tweak the bridge pickup height until they get their ideal tone. Then decide whether a 300mV neck pickup would be suitable or not.
Its not necessarily a bad idea to have a high output neck pickup if you can lower it sufficiently. That is one way to get a brighter tone from an otherwise mid-heavy sounding pickup.
For example I used an Evolution neck with PAF PRO in the bridge. It works because I like the PAF PRO bridge humbucker when raised close to the strings, and it has plenty of output.
I would suggest the OP to tweak the bridge pickup height until they get their ideal tone. Then decide whether a 300mV neck pickup would be suitable or not.
Archer250
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Mr. B
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My reasoning based on my experience with Dimarzios in Ibanez RG's:
You said no mushy bottom end. The PAF Pro in the NECK has a mushy bottom end in a basswood RG.
You said articulate and cutting sound, that perfectly describes the Humbucker from Hell.
The Paf Joe is not as cutting and articulate as the humbucker from hell. It is warmer and more rounded.
I personally don't think the Humbucker from Hell is too bright. It is articulate and cutting, and does not sound like a very round Air Norton type pickup.
The Mo Joe is not a tremendously hot bridge pickup, so more powerful neck pickups like the Evolution neck might somewhat overpower the Mo Joe.
The 36th Anniversary is also a great neck pickup. It has a bigger bottom end than the Paf Joe and HFH, and is not quite as cutting and present as the Humbucker From Hell, but it can still shred while also being great for clean tones.
The Mo Joe has sort of a balanced and sterile quality to it, which I think matches well with the Humbucker from Hell. If you want contrast by having a warmer rounder neck, the PAF Joe or 36th would work well while balancing well with the Mo Joe's output.
My reasoning based on my experience with Dimarzios in Ibanez RG's:
You said no mushy bottom end. The PAF Pro in the NECK has a mushy bottom end in a basswood RG.
You said articulate and cutting sound, that perfectly describes the Humbucker from Hell.
The Paf Joe is not as cutting and articulate as the humbucker from hell. It is warmer and more rounded.
I personally don't think the Humbucker from Hell is too bright. It is articulate and cutting, and does not sound like a very round Air Norton type pickup.
The Mo Joe is not a tremendously hot bridge pickup, so more powerful neck pickups like the Evolution neck might somewhat overpower the Mo Joe.
The 36th Anniversary is also a great neck pickup. It has a bigger bottom end than the Paf Joe and HFH, and is not quite as cutting and present as the Humbucker From Hell, but it can still shred while also being great for clean tones.
The Mo Joe has sort of a balanced and sterile quality to it, which I think matches well with the Humbucker from Hell. If you want contrast by having a warmer rounder neck, the PAF Joe or 36th would work well while balancing well with the Mo Joe's output.
Rex_Rocker
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You guys think the PAF Pro has a mushy bottom end?!
The PAF Pro is all attack, IME. That's why I personally don't like it in the neck. At least not paired with fat bridge pickups like the Tone Zone. The PAF Pro is way too chirpy to the point where switching to the neck pickup in that combo actually sounds brighter than the bridge.
You guys think the PAF Pro has a mushy bottom end?!
The PAF Pro is all attack, IME. That's why I personally don't like it in the neck. At least not paired with fat bridge pickups like the Tone Zone. The PAF Pro is way too chirpy to the point where switching to the neck pickup in that combo actually sounds brighter than the bridge.
Re: Neck pickup go go with Mo Joe in bridge
PAF Joe. I have one in the neck of my RG550 paired with a Fred in the bridge. I like it. It is not mushy at all on the bottom end. Pretty defined for a neck pickup. I had a 36th anni neck and also an Air Norton. I wouldn't call either mushy in the low end but not as defined as I wanted. Just a thought. How about a Fred in the neck? I had my Fred first and had thoughts of moving it to the neck for a Mo Joe. I didn't do that obviously but one day if I want to change things up I just might.
PAF Joe. I have one in the neck of my RG550 paired with a Fred in the bridge. I like it. It is not mushy at all on the bottom end. Pretty defined for a neck pickup. I had a 36th anni neck and also an Air Norton. I wouldn't call either mushy in the low end but not as defined as I wanted. Just a thought. How about a Fred in the neck? I had my Fred first and had thoughts of moving it to the neck for a Mo Joe. I didn't do that obviously but one day if I want to change things up I just might.
oilpit
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The Fred is ****in' fantastic in the neck. It's somewhat similar to a PAF Pro but it cranks the aggression up to 11, I actually prefer it in the neck to it in the bridge where it's much more commonly found.
a Jazz would also fit the bill, it would be perfect actually, but I'm OCD about mixing pickup brands.
The Fred is ****in' fantastic in the neck. It's somewhat similar to a PAF Pro but it cranks the aggression up to 11, I actually prefer it in the neck to it in the bridge where it's much more commonly found.
a Jazz would also fit the bill, it would be perfect actually, but I'm OCD about mixing pickup brands.
