Need help picking a BUGERA

Karmadog777

Karmadog777

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heh heh no really... Bugera amps..looking at these heads and cant really figure the differences http://www.americanmusical.com/BrandItems--b-608
El34s vs. 6L6s 5preamp tubes vs4 Im a metal / high gain guy and was considering between a spider valve and a Krank Rev Jr before these came out, I use amp distortion not stomp boxes. These have been said to be 5150 copies, mainly i need help determining the tonal differences between the
333XL , 6260 , and the 6262
Im pretty much done with solid state and hybrids...my 2 tube valve Jr dont cut it with out stomp boxes......help be go all tube for cheap:bigok:
 
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I'm guessing the 333XL is like an XXX, the 6260 is like a 5150/6505, and the 6262 is like a 5150ii/6505+.

The difference is in the voicing, not necessarily the gain, and the number of channels each amplifier has. If you want cleans, get the 333XL. If you just want high gain, get the 6260/6262.
 
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The 333 has much improved pedal switching over the others. Sound-wise, not much difference. The 6262 you have push a button on the head to go from clean to crunch, can go from those to the hot channel on floorboard. On the 333 all three are accessable on floor control.

-dave
 
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ok, speaking from a tube standpoint the 333 has 4 12AX7s and 4 EL34s whereas the 6262 has 6 12ax7s and 4 6L6s ,,,,I would think with 2 more preamp tubes the 6262 would have more gain/distortion from the preamp?
what are the defining charactoristics between EL34 and 6L6 powertubes?
The features make me take a serious look look at the 333XL . but most high gain amps i like the sounds of (Krank,GenzBenz diablo,5150 ect.) have more than 4 preamp tubes and that makes me leary to pass up the 6262 for the 333
man I wish I could hear these side by side for comparison, but no stores near me carry them
 
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We tried them side by side as best we could in the music store. Smallish room and half volume was all you wanted with either. the 333 had a Bugera half-stack and the 6262 had a Beherenger half-stack (w/Bugera speakers). I will say both sounded amazing for the bucks. these are not the "best-sounding-amps-on-the-planet". They are MUCH more than most... for the bucks. the only other tube amp at this store was a Peavey ValveKing. There wasn't even a contest. I played the Valve-king for about 10 minutes and never even turned it on again.
The 333 sounds amazing, there may be a little more gain on the 6262 than the 333. It wasn't really noticible at 1/2 volume levels. There 3 of us in the room listening and alternately playing. We all agreed that for most applications the 333 would be the better purchase for ease of channel switching. Soundwise at 1/2 volume we really couldn't tell a lot of difference. Perhaps at higher volumes the differences would become more noticable.
If I still played out... I would get the 333, just for the easier way to switch channels.
I brought home the 6262 and am quite happy with it. It is a little irritating to have to stop playing and reach over to the head and go to crunch from clean or back. That is the only reason I would recomend the 333 over the 6262.

I still like the Tubeworks.......just amazing tone!!!!!
(not for metal, though!)

-dave
 
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well for the price I would buy a Genz Benz El Diablo before a 5150,XXX,or JSX
but the bugeras are about 1/2 that price,putting them right about what Im willing to spend on another amp.....and the last thing I want right now is a second hand Peavey
 
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I've owned 6 second hand Peaveys (JSX, XXX, 5150II, 5150x3) and none of them have been anything but absolute tanks. Even the ones in the roughest shape worked perfectly and sounded as they should've.

The Bugeras are made from cheap**** Chinese components... they cut every corner they can. You're worried about the reliability of a Peavey, so you look at a Chinese knockoff? Sounds like a great plan!
 
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Karmadog777 said:
well for the price I would buy a Genz Benz El Diablo before a 5150,XXX,or JSX
but the bugeras are about 1/2 that price,putting them right about what Im willing to spend on another amp.....and the last thing I want right now is a second hand Peavey
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Why is that? -surely buying a clone built to lower quality standards is a recipe for more trouble than a s/h peavey is likely to give you...
 
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The 333 has a solid clean and with three distinct channels more flexability but the 6260 has a fuller and fatter crunch. I have A/Bed um in a local shop, need the cleans and switching flexability go with the 333, looking for a pure high gain metal monster go with the 6260.
The 333 crunch sounded more Solid State and buzzy to my ear than the 6260. I was not able to back off the gain on the 333 and have the amp open up and get more "organic" like I could on the 6260.
The 6260 had a clean that allways had an edge and never really got clean. With the crunch button in on channel 1 I got a solid edgie crunch that I was flat not able to get with the 333 and was able to dial up a solid over the top lead tone on the other channel.
 
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Hot _Grits said:
Why is that? -surely buying a clone built to lower quality standards is a recipe for more trouble than a s/h peavey is likely to give you...
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Looking at the tubes used in the Bulgera I'm not sure that statement is accurate. I need to see the internal boards but from what I have seen so far the build quiality of the Bulgera is higher than the Peavy Valve kings. But that is not saying much :earl: .
 
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Ascension said:
Looking at the tubes used in the Bulgera I'm not sure that statement is accurate. I need to see the internal boards but from what I have seen so far the build quiality of the Bulgera is higher than the Peavy Valve kings. But that is not saying much :earl: .
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Well, I'm assuming as well. But behringer has never made a cheaper clone product without lowering component or construction quality yet. And peaveys are pretty well made for production line. techs hate working on some of them due to layout tightness, but apart from that, a secondhand US-built peavey is a good deal for a working player.
 
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man toucy peeps about a second hand Peavey lol, I say that because I have had many Peavey amps, I did not say anything about them being anything other than another 2nd hand Peavey, I have owned Renown 2x12, stereo chourus2x12,backstage,Mace head and a classic in the past, oh yeh and some little battery powered job. The renown and the mace were pretty killer at the time. I like amp distortion and never heard a 5150 that I liked .(distortion wise) XXX ?bah! JSX? who? j/k never heard one.
I have however heard clips of the 6262 and think its something I could work with. Iam not out to impress anyone with the badge on my amp and it wont be leaving my jam room, so I dont care if it is made by mattel aslong as I can get the tones I want out of it:kabong:
BTW my post was really more about power tube charactoristics than branding

for every 500 guys there are stomping on a metal zone, because his hero stomps on a metal zone(and BOSS is proudly embosses across it), there is one guy who picked up a metal planet in a pawn shop for 20 bucks because he like the way it sounded.
 
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