New Marshall amp today!
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Silence Kid
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Cool - The DSL seems to have both less saturated overall gain, and tighter bottom-end in those clips. Maybe they both benefit from the boost in different ways- the DSL sort of needs it to get into saturation/compression. The TSL already has that richness/thickness, but just tightens up from the boost. As far as clean tones, I guess it’s the same story; TSL is warmer, DSL sparklier/brighter.
Cool - The DSL seems to have both less saturated overall gain, and tighter bottom-end in those clips. Maybe they both benefit from the boost in different ways- the DSL sort of needs it to get into saturation/compression. The TSL already has that richness/thickness, but just tightens up from the boost. As far as clean tones, I guess it’s the same story; TSL is warmer, DSL sparklier/brighter.
80's_Metal
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I Agree on all counts.
I did have to turn the tone down on my OD because the DSL was too brittle and nearing microphonic.
I also swapped the original 12ax7s out right away and that helped so very much. It wasn't lifeless before, but it was a huge improvement for sure.
I Agree on all counts.
I did have to turn the tone down on my OD because the DSL was too brittle and nearing microphonic.
I also swapped the original 12ax7s out right away and that helped so very much. It wasn't lifeless before, but it was a huge improvement for sure.
Repoman
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I always preferred the TSL to the DSL's. They sound more classic Marshall to me. The last DSL I bought was brand new and it caught fire 15 minutes into playing it. I sent it back and grabbed a SC20H. Congratulations on the new amp, you can never have enough heads.
I always preferred the TSL to the DSL's. They sound more classic Marshall to me. The last DSL I bought was brand new and it caught fire 15 minutes into playing it. I sent it back and grabbed a SC20H. Congratulations on the new amp, you can never have enough heads.
80's_Metal
Underglazed Hair Metalologist
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That's an amazing story repoman.
Just curious, was your DSL a JCM 2000, or was it the DSL 100 head?
That's an amazing story repoman.
Just curious, was your DSL a JCM 2000, or was it the DSL 100 head?
NegativeEase
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Why do you write this? Curious -as these newer Marshalls have so much damn gain, I wouldn't think most boosts would help the situation.... so I'm guessing the Keely Kantana is mild, has a great EQ, or naturally warm or dark as hell for you to make this comment -which I could see as tolerable if that is the case.
Most of my boosts these days are Xotics and Klone stuff -which would probably tear up some ears with top end with the gain up on 80s metal's rig.
I've only owned Plexi to JCM800s and used plenty of 900s so I'm used to throwing a boost in front of them -in fact, they beg for it. But not familiar with JCM2000s and beyond.
Why do you write this? Curious -as these newer Marshalls have so much damn gain, I wouldn't think most boosts would help the situation.... so I'm guessing the Keely Kantana is mild, has a great EQ, or naturally warm or dark as hell for you to make this comment -which I could see as tolerable if that is the case.
Most of my boosts these days are Xotics and Klone stuff -which would probably tear up some ears with top end with the gain up on 80s metal's rig.
I've only owned Plexi to JCM800s and used plenty of 900s so I'm used to throwing a boost in front of them -in fact, they beg for it. But not familiar with JCM2000s and beyond.
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Demanic
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You certainly won't see it as tolerable. The Katana is a clean or treble boost, depending on how you set it. And it's LOUD. Potentially. And given how these two Marshalls sound, I can only imagine how hitting the front with a boosted version of your guitar sound, or better, top boosted, would work out. Might actually sound as good as my Metalzone.
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NegativeEase
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Ha. Fair enough -yeah that's not what I would go for for a stage sound -for studio recording,... anything goes of course ... I'm always looking for big ballzy low mids balanced with more defined mid top and usually roll off a lot above that. Not really into the treble boost thing live as much, although I'm down to hear a good example of what you like in a treble boost into high gain if you can link one
Ha. Fair enough -yeah that's not what I would go for for a stage sound -for studio recording,... anything goes of course ... I'm always looking for big ballzy low mids balanced with more defined mid top and usually roll off a lot above that. Not really into the treble boost thing live as much, although I'm down to hear a good example of what you like in a treble boost into high gain if you can link one
Demanic
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I like top end sizzle. Coupled with present mids and tight chunky bass.
Those Marshalls have good tone. But if you make the guitar sound bigger, it's probably going to come out of the speakers, bigger.
I'll try to find an example.
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I like top end sizzle. Coupled with present mids and tight chunky bass.
Those Marshalls have good tone. But if you make the guitar sound bigger, it's probably going to come out of the speakers, bigger.
I'll try to find an example.
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Demanic
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Searched through YouTube. Apparently most people are as averse to the idea as yourself, for I found no vids of someone boosting a Marshall dirt channel with a Keeley. So I am forced to post something that I did, albeit through a completely different amp, a Randall ss head, but with dirt. At 5:27 (for those who wish to fast forward) you can hear me engage the Katana pedal, top boost mode in this case. Imagine what it would sound like given the same conditions, in a Marshall.
https://soundcloud.com/demanic-1/darth-musings
Searched through YouTube. Apparently most people are as averse to the idea as yourself, for I found no vids of someone boosting a Marshall dirt channel with a Keeley. So I am forced to post something that I did, albeit through a completely different amp, a Randall ss head, but with dirt. At 5:27 (for those who wish to fast forward) you can hear me engage the Katana pedal, top boost mode in this case. Imagine what it would sound like given the same conditions, in a Marshall.
https://soundcloud.com/demanic-1/darth-musings
80's_Metal
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I heard you engage "something" just before the 2 minute mark ha ha ha. Good stuff!
I heard you engage "something" just before the 2 minute mark ha ha ha. Good stuff!
NegativeEase
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Ok, cool. thanks -I got it now, I don't find that tone objectionable -sort of reminds me of very early 90s after the 80s mid boost era and before the super scooped era. I enjoyed the cursing too...
Ok, cool. thanks -I got it now, I don't find that tone objectionable -sort of reminds me of very early 90s after the 80s mid boost era and before the super scooped era. I enjoyed the cursing too...
Demanic
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That was when the strap detached itself from the guitar.
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80's_Metal
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My only beef with the DSL is that the effects loop is not switched on the footswitch.
What the heck, Marshall... Why even have it then?
Lately I've been using the DSL for rythm tracks and the TSL for lead work.
My only beef with the DSL is that the effects loop is not switched on the footswitch.
What the heck, Marshall... Why even have it then?
Lately I've been using the DSL for rythm tracks and the TSL for lead work.
