New to Board - LP Classic Neck PU?

NT02

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I've enjoyed reading the many helpful threads this past week, and decided to post my own needs so that you, the most helpful and experienced forum dwellers, could give me your excellent advice first-hand (well, as much as can be through internet :)

Here's the deal, I have an ebony 2002 Les Paul Classic with stock 496R and 500T ceramic humbuckers. I've played through a variety of equipment with this guitar including Zinky Mofo, Fender Hot Rod DeVille, currently using a Peavey Classic 30 the most, Randall RG75 (for stereo sounds and cheap thrills), and a POD (stereo recording, thicken tones). I haven't played out since 98, and predominantly play at home to my 4-track or pc. I play anything from light finger-picking pretty chords to spacey barely clipping delay-soaked passages to heavey metal/shred, with a healthy dose of blues and good ol AC/DC, STP, Led Zep, ZZ Top, clean-dirty toned classic rock in between.

I'm not satisfied with the sound of my stock LP. It's distressing, because it plays wonderfully and has a full acoustic sound that I just love. NECK pickup causes me the most grief. I love to play clean chords with definition, finger pick strings with articulation, and play thick, bluesy leads with creamy overdrive. This ceramic pickup I have now makes it very difficult to get a pretty clean sound out of any equipment I play. There is no bell-like chime, no airy/spacey beauty, just thick/muddy bass, mid and unpleasnt treble spike. There are some nice overdrive sounds, but it's still way to hard to dial EQ to taste. This pick-up just defies the natural sound of the guitar with it's own, and brings out the worst in my amp's eq. The BRIDGE pickup is more tolerable, as it has a killer heavey distortion that makes even my Classic 30 a heavy metal machine (believe it). But, again, it brings out the worst in eqs. Like, I like the sound of all of my amp's distortion with a good dose of mid dialed in, but this damn pickup justs sounds like crap with any mid added. I can't clean up by backing off on the volume of my guitar, I get different levels of heavy distortion. I can get decent classic rock sounds if I dial the overdrive way back on my amp, but it's usually spikey, and doesn't do much else no matter how I work the volume or tone knobs. I feel I shouldn't have to "tolerate" a pickup on a $1700 guitar, much less be totally disatisfied.

SO, I'm mostly concerned with replacing the neck pickup, and will eventually replace the bridge. I've been very interested in Rio Grande pikcups until finding this forum. Now I am leaning heavily towards the APH-1, with interest in the Jazz, Pearly Gates, Seth Lover and Antiquity models. I'd love to have the Slash Custom APH, but am not shelling out $160 for one pickup. I love the in-between neck and mid single coil on my Charvel sound for clean, and would like something close (I know I can't get there with a humbucker) to that airy, articulated sound. Something that lets my guitar come through. Something that lets my amp do the tone tweaking. Your suggestions are most welcome. Please feel free to recommend a bridge bucker, too. I am always distorted on that pickup, and like classic rock to heavy metal/shred. Thanks!
 
Re: New to Board - LP Classic Neck PU?

for all of the tones you are looking for there are plenty of pickups, and combinations that will suit tat guitar very well. if you really want a fifties sound, go with the antiquities, very nice thick round tone, everything a PAF should be. for something more like a slash tone go with the aph1 in the neck and maybe spice things up a bit with the PG in the bridge.

If you are getting bad highs already i would not use a jazz in the neck as it seems to be a bright pickup.

the seths are also a very good all around PAF that is a bit thicker in the mids and lacks some of the airy quality of the antiquities.

most importantly the antiquities are bursting with mojo. i don't think you can go wrong with those pickups but the other combos sound great too
 
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I'd just go straight to an Antiquity Neck humbucker and be done with it. I think that's what you're looking for. Most neck humbuckers sound way to bassy to me...I like single coil Strat pickups best. But I think the Antiquity gets the most acoustic 3-Dimensional tone of any of the Duncan HB's.

The other ones that come to mind are the Seth Lover and also the Pearly Gates...but if you've been on a tone quest for awhile, it'll probably end with the Antiquitys.

Lew
 
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I like the PG set in my LP Std. Add a push/pull pot (you will most likely need to mod your cavity) to split the neck, and you'll have it all. Creamy leads, airy humbucker tones, and clean, chimey pseudo-strat sounds when split.
 
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Cool, thanks for the replies. 2 for Ants and 1 for PGs. I was worried about the treble of the Jazz and lack of definition when overdriven. That one is out.

So, the Ants seem to be something special. A few questions. Not too weak? Do they need to be a matched set, or will the Ant neck play well with others? And last, I like the look of open coil, but wouldn't mind having an open coil bridge and a covered neck like that famous LP player from that late 60's-70's band...ummmm, what was his name...?
 
Re: New to Board - LP Classic Neck PU?

The Antiquity comes covered so...you're covered so to speak.

Most of my guitars with humbuckers have mixed sets. I used an Antiquity neck with a Custom 5 bridge in my '92 Hamer Sunburst.

No problem at all mixing the Antiquity with other pickups. You might have to do a magnet spin if it's out of phase with whatever you have now...maybe not. You'd have to try it and see.

But other than that, no problems mixing the Antiquity neck pickup with another model of bridge pickup, IMO.

Lew
 
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The Antiquities are VERY special. ;)

My friend has an Antiquity 1 set (Texas Hots w/ Antiquity Custom in the bridge) in his 57 strat and they rock! I've never played the 'buckers, but I'm sure that they are the cat's ass.
 
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I have 2 sets and a neck. I love them antiquities. They ain't weak with the aged magnet.

B
 
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benjy, you don't know what you are missing. those ant buckers are great
 
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Lots of antiquity recommendations. And two for the Ant Neck C5b combo. Awesome. I'm out of here for the weekend. Going to Austin to celebrate my 31st! Thanks for the responses and please keep em coming. Let's here how the Seth's and APH-1's compare to these pickups from heaven. I'm depending on ya'll to keep me from blowing all my money swapping pickups.
 
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mrfjones said:
benjy, you don't know what you are missing. those ant buckers are great


;)

I know I'm probably missing the boat, but till I can scrounge up some cash, the PG's will have to do. :burnout:
 
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blake da teleman said:
were can u find the new custom slash pups at becuase ive looked around and no luck


Call the Custom Shop, they'll wind you a set. :burnout:
 
Re: New to Board - LP Classic Neck PU?

Welcome to the board NT02!!!

My vote goes for a set of Antiquities. I've played, tried & own several different Duncan pups. My '01 LP Std. get's the most play because of the Antiquities. They are just fantastic pups, they'll do everything you mentioned in your post & will supprise you in doing so because of the true, rich, organic tone they exude. :headbang: Antiquities ROCK! :headbang: Good luck.

Peace,

Darrin
 
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Benjy_26 said:
;)

I know I'm probably missing the boat, but till I can scrounge up some cash, the PG's will have to do. :burnout:

there is just something so special about them. I don't know what all seymour does to them but whatever it is it works. get some cash together and get a set of any of them. they are worth every penny and then some.
 
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mrfjones said:
there is just something so special about them. I don't know what all seymour does to them but whatever it is it works. get some cash together and get a set of any of them. they are worth every penny and then some.


I just might do it. :)

By any chance, do you know if the Custom Shop will underwind a neck antiquity humbucker and overwind the bridge?
 
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Darrin, thanks for throwing your two cents in. Good info. Thanks to everyone who replied. Seems I've got the antiquity lovers responding. Is there anyone who has tried the antiquities and liked something else better? How do the other pickups compare? Seriously, the APH-1 was what lead me to this board. The Seth Lover and Antiquity are appealing, except for no wax potting, but I read that not many have had any problems with that. The Pearly Gates look good, but I honestly didn't consider them much because of the tone I heard on a Lone Star Strat with a PG in the bridge. Talking about treble spike. Ugh. But that's not a LP. How do these other pickups compare to the antiquity?
 
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Well, I'll plug the APH set. I have them in a Dean Hardtail, and in that same hardtail I've had the PG and the Seth in the neck. The Seth was damn good, but I just love the smooth, creamy tone of the APH, both clean and dirty. No matter how much gain I throw at it, the sound remains articulate. The Seth was a close second, it had a tad more edge to it, but in a good way. As for the PG, I just can't get along with it. The upper mids are just harsh to my ear, but that's just personal preference. I've also had 59' neck pups, and they are too bright on the top end, and too boomy on the bottom for me.

The only neck pup in the PAF range that I haven't tried is the Antiquity. When I purchase my LP in a few months, I have a set of Antiquities planned for it. The only other PAF's I would consider are the Seths, APH's, and a custom shop set of Slash pups. They sound interesting to me because they are scatter wound on Antiquity hardware. If you want true vintage smoothness, the Antiquities are the ticket for sure. If you want that same smoothness with an added touch of sweet, go for the APH's.

There's 2 shiney pennies from me to rub together.
 
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Cool, man. Nice insight. Enjoyed your clips. That APH does sound nice w/overdrive. Too bad you can't purchase 5 neck pickups, try em all and keep the one you like, returning all the rest for a refund! I'm guessing I'm just gonna havta try em and see what fits me.
 
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