NGD: PRS McCarty 10 Top Birds.

Re: NGD: PRS McCarty 10 Top Birds.

Sounds like you are trying to justify buying it (to youself, I doubt it's to us ;)). If not I apologise.

Do you like it better? Great!

I like the shape of the LP better. That is the only good thing I have to say after playing both kinds of guitars. Only LP I'd buy is a studio, for some reason they feel better to me out of the ones I have tried so far.
 
Re: NGD: PRS McCarty 10 Top Birds.

I mean you are entitled to your opinion, and I fully agree that a gibson is in no way shape or form worth that much. but its not because theres holes in it. its because I just don't have that kind of money and because I don't like the guitars....with a few exceptions of course

A Gibson usa is not worth that much BECAUSE there are holes in it (because they don't use light mahogany) and the neck joint is terrible (however, the new 2009 standards have a new dovetail joint). However, it is NOT because you don't have that kind of money.

Simply put, I think Gibson should lower their prices because of the relatively inferior quality, not because you don't have the money.
 
Re: NGD: PRS McCarty 10 Top Birds.

Sweet. I love Les Pauls and McCartys. I've always considered the McCarty like the final McCarty era Gibson, just because Gibson's ex President co-designed the guitar with Paul Reed Smith.

At first, when I saw your LP, knowing it was gone, I was thinking 'nooooo.' But then I saw that spectacular McCarty and went 'yeeessssss.' Too bad keeping them both wasn't an option. Usually, all a LP needs is a really good setup. A PRS comes with a good setup.
 
Re: NGD: PRS McCarty 10 Top Birds.

Sweet. I love Les Pauls and McCartys. I've always considered the McCarty like the final McCarty era Gibson, just because Gibson's ex President co-designed the guitar with Paul Reed Smith.

At first, when I saw your LP, knowing it was gone, I was thinking 'nooooo.' But then I saw that spectacular McCarty and went 'yeeessssss.' Too bad keeping them both wasn't an option. Usually, all a LP needs is a really good setup. A PRS comes with a good setup.

If I ever get a Les Paul in the future, I'd like to get a reissue :). I prefer the reissues I've played to the production USAs I've played. The neck angle and the holes really bug me on the production models. You're a lucky guy to have AND appreciate both!:)
 
Re: NGD: PRS McCarty 10 Top Birds.

Nice score. How does the rosewood neck feel and sound?
I've got a mccarty with a purple top. I gotta get a digital camera so I can show off my girls. The only change I made was putting on tone pro locking screws on her.
 
Re: NGD: PRS McCarty 10 Top Birds.

Nice score. How does the rosewood neck feel and sound?
I've got a mccarty with a purple top. I gotta get a digital camera so I can show off my girls. The only change I made was putting on tone pro locking screws on her.

i love purple guitars.
i have to say, the neck drew me to the guitar at first. It felt very smooth and non-gunky. The profile (i believe it's wide fat) is perfect for me. Reminds me a lot of my classical guitar, just downsized a tad. Much fatter than the 60s gibson necks. Again, since there are other variables, I cannot say what the rosewood neck adds on its own, but the guitar sounds very clear and uniform. When i tune it with my strobostomp, it actually has a very uniform rotating motion, unlike the les paul i sold. I don't know if this goes for all the prs mccartys, but mine has a beautiful midrange; the high notes whine in a very pleasant way. The low notes are very dense, and the neck pickup position is smoother sounding than that of the les paul i had
 
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CONGRATS!!!

Like you I picked up a McCarty with a solid rosewood neck, and since April it's been awful hard to put it down! The raw neck feels great, and the craftsmanship is superb. I compared the one I got to another with the Artist package but this one just had IT. I hope you stay as happy with yours as I am with mine.

Luke
 
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Nice! I always thought PRS guitars sound a little dead though. Maybe because of the thick finish? Not sure. How much does it weigh? I have an LP Standard and was thinking of getting another or a Hamer Studio, or LP Studio.....BUT something keeps telling me to try a McCarty again. Do you find it at all muddy?
 
Re: NGD: PRS McCarty 10 Top Birds.

that is one beautiful guitar!

as for the OP...please tell me that standard production gibson neck join is not what all of them look like? That was just a particularly bad QC miss...please? Im by no means a gibson proponent, i actually dislike their guitars in general, mostly for the scale length. I just cant imagine them being as half assed to put out neck joints that friggin bad on a consistant basis
 
Re: NGD: PRS McCarty 10 Top Birds.

that is one beautiful guitar!

as for the OP...please tell me that standard production gibson neck join is not what all of them look like? That was just a particularly bad QC miss...please? Im by no means a gibson proponent, i actually dislike their guitars in general, mostly for the scale length. I just cant imagine them being as half assed to put out neck joints that friggin bad on a consistant basis

Actually, I have owned theree PRS guitars, a McCarty that I picked out of 15 McCartys! It never held a candle to my LPs in tone, or vibe so I got rid of it. I now have a 1994, fantastic CE-22 but my number one LP still gets first call. LPs and SGs just sound more full, sweeter, richer. It's like the interview I read with Alex Lifeson and Geddy Lee where Geddy says he prefers Alex play Gibsons because his sound is much richer with a Gibson than a PRS. I agree, PRS guitars have a more plastic tone and dead tone no matter the pickups. Maybe it is the finish and I have played tons of them in 22 years.

And no, that neck joint shot is totally bogus. It was a scam shot put on the net years ago. It was discredited and proven wrong years ago. I won't even go there! I have witnessed LP necks being replaced on LPs from the 90s and current and the neck joint was very neat. If you believe that picture, I have some land for you in Florida! :1: Just teasing man. But seriously, it is fake.
 
Re: NGD: PRS McCarty 10 Top Birds.

Congrats on the new guitar! Unfinished rosewood necks are the shiznit! Dunno how much it affects the tone (I suspect it adds a little depth) but the feel is amazing.
Nice! I always thought PRS guitars sound a little dead though. Maybe because of the thick finish?
The "thick finish on PRS" is just as much bunk as the LP joint picture. I have a 3 y.o. Singlecut where the finish has sunk into the wood. You don't often see that with a poly finish but if it's as thick as some people claim, it would never happen.

That's not to say that I've not played some dead PRS guitars. A few months ago I played a BRW McCarty (one of 250 made) that was an absolute dog. :( Not even the dead sexy Brazilian rosewood neck could save it but I'd attribute it more to the wood than to the finish.
 
Re: NGD: PRS McCarty 10 Top Birds.

Sorry, maybe I was wrong about the finish. But, my tech and I had this conversation. He works on guitars for people every day. He said he has yet to come across one that does not sound dead.

Every time I see a band in concert with a PRS, the tone is always second rate to an LP or SG in my opinion. I don't know what it is, but something is missing. I will say, they play great...but no better than my LP Standard.

When I had a great McCarty, my LP always sounded fuller, bigger, better. My McCarty had a smaller tone.
 
Re: NGD: PRS McCarty 10 Top Birds.

And no, that neck joint shot is totally bogus. It was a scam shot put on the net years ago. It was discredited and proven wrong years ago. I won't even go there! I have witnessed LP necks being replaced on LPs from the 90s and current and the neck joint was very neat. If you believe that picture, I have some land for you in Florida! :1: Just teasing man. But seriously, it is fake.

It was released by the Gibson Custom Shop, and it was on their website. It is NOT bogus.
 
Re: NGD: PRS McCarty 10 Top Birds.

Nice! I always thought PRS guitars sound a little dead though. Maybe because of the thick finish? Not sure. How much does it weigh? I have an LP Standard and was thinking of getting another or a Hamer Studio, or LP Studio.....BUT something keeps telling me to try a McCarty again. Do you find it at all muddy?

it is a little more refined sounding than most guitars.:)
people have different tastes and i can sort of understand why people might not be immediately attracted to the prs sound. It's neither fender nor gibson (although the 513 i played was scary close).
i don't believe the finish affecting tone argument (as long as the finish isn't an inch thick); paul reed smith says it's thin.

you have your lp standard, and if you expect the same kind of tone from a mccarty, you'll be disappointed.

i will admit, the difference in tone is not as radical as the difference in that between a les paul and a strat, but there is a difference in the way the note blooms. The McCarty sounds more violin like, and the lower notes sound dense ( i don't know if that's due to the solid rosewood neck on mine). The neck pickup sure sounds more flutey than my old les paul with the ap2pros.

i don't have an exact measurement, but i'll get it soon. As far as I can tell, it's as light as my fender strat.
 
Re: NGD: PRS McCarty 10 Top Birds.

Do you have a link? I'm curious about this!

I have seen standards with the neck removed after a bad accident and it was a nice fit. Only difference I have seen is a longer tenon which I think is minimal at best in tonal differences. Heck, if mine did have that neck joint, I'll take it. My 2004 Standards sounded fuller and more rich than either my McCarty, Hamer, or anything I have owned.

Show us the link to Gibson's site!

Yas, my McCarty had a nice lead voice...very fluid and violin, but the clean and rhythm tones could not homd a candle to my LPs. So, it was one dimensional. If I did nothing but play lead, I may have kept it.
 
Re: NGD: PRS McCarty 10 Top Birds.

Nice score. I like everything about PRS ........ almost.

I'm just asking because I don't know ................... why do their tops rarely (if ever) not match at the seam? Are they not supposed to be bookmatched tops?
 
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