Night train vs AC30s1 Doom/stoner/ classic rock

Night train vs AC30s1 Doom/stoner/ classic rock

  • Vox Night train 15h w/ 2X12

    Votes: 1 33.3%

  • Vox ac30s1

    Votes: 1 33.3%

  • Keep the Line 6 helix

    Votes: 1 33.3%
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    3
King Halt

King Halt

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Looking at selling my current rig (line6 helix) and getting a real deal tube amp. I have my eye on either a single speaker Vox ac30s1 or a night train 15 head with laney 2X12. I play in a classic rock cover band and a doomy/ stoner rock band. I mostly use my volume control on my guitar to get my cleans and even that I don’t like too clean. My two concerns are a.) the 15 night rain will not give me the volume and headroom I need and B.) the AC 30 will be too loud to get the natural breakup I’m looking for without deffining everyone. Sometimes I will have PA and sometimes not. Anyone with any experience with these amps?
 
Re: Night train vs AC30s1 Doom/stoner/ classic rock

AC30 is a tone machine. High headroom can easily be solved by an attenuator or an overdrive pedal. Get a tube screamer too and bam, tones for days. I have no experience with the nightrain though, you will have to ask someone else.
 
Re: Night train vs AC30s1 Doom/stoner/ classic rock

Why Vox for those styles? Orange, Laney, Marshall, used Peaveys from the 80s, Sunn solid state amps.....

If it were me and these were my choices I'd do the AC30 but I'd get the 2x12.
 
Re: Night train vs AC30s1 Doom/stoner/ classic rock

Empty Pockets said:
Why Vox for those styles? Orange, Laney, Marshall, used Peaveys from the 80s, Sunn solid state amps.....

If it were me and these were my choices I'd do the AC30 but I'd get the 2x12.
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Those are far outside of my price range. Besides, I’m not looking for an electric wizard or SLEEP tone...more of a witchcraft or kadavar tone. Vox has always sounded good to me and few people in my area use them...kinda wanted something different
 
Re: Night train vs AC30s1 Doom/stoner/ classic rock

King Halt said:
Those are far outside of my price range. Besides, I’m not looking for an electric wizard or SLEEP tone...more of a witchcraft or kadavar tone. Vox has always sounded good to me and few people in my area use them...kinda wanted something different
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Rocker 15 is the same price as the AC30s1
 
Re: Night train vs AC30s1 Doom/stoner/ classic rock

1x10 vs 1x12 ... a very old argument. I think it would project enough for a small/medium gig.
 
Re: Night train vs AC30s1 Doom/stoner/ classic rock

I just wanna say the night train 15 will have a loose, possibly farting quality to it run that hard, and either you'll have to boost the bright mode or run thick mode which has no eq section... And thick mode with no eq is a very limiting setting. I got tired of it. I had one for a year.

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Re: Night train vs AC30s1 Doom/stoner/ classic rock

My thought was to get the ac30s1 and load a darker speaker like a vintage 30
 
Re: Night train vs AC30s1 Doom/stoner/ classic rock

Literally all of the brands I listed have an amp in your price range that will do the tones you want better than Vox.

Vox are great for Beatles, 60s pop, and church rock. They lack the lowend and growl for anything heavy.
 
Re: Night train vs AC30s1 Doom/stoner/ classic rock

Just to throw another amp in there, a used Supro would be a good amp.
 
Re: Night train vs AC30s1 Doom/stoner/ classic rock

Empty Pockets said:
Literally all of the brands I listed have an amp in your price range that will do the tones you want better than Vox.

Vox are great for Beatles, 60s pop, and church rock. They lack the lowend and growl for anything heavy.
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I will conced that, mainly because I found a used Laney Gh50L at guitar center for $400. Going to check it out today
 
Re: Night train vs AC30s1 Doom/stoner/ classic rock

Laneys are great and totally underrated for some reason. You'd think more people would want to use the same amps as Tony Iommi.
 
Re: Night train vs AC30s1 Doom/stoner/ classic rock

I think you've made the right choice there.
I've owned both a NT15 and an AC30C1 (older 1x12 version). Both the vox amps are amazing for blues, 60's style rock, and anything that sounds something like U2 or Queen, but I'd never associate them with stoner and doom music - mainly because they're lower wattage..
The AC30 does the AC30 thing - bright, crunchy, treble oriented tone, and has a nice lush reverb and tremolo circuit. Beautiful cleans also. I see the AC30 as a 'pretty' sounding amp.
The NT15 can do 80% of an AC tone through its bright channel and with a lower gain valve in V1 (12AY7 was nice here). The thick channel was quite dirty and lacked the articulation of the bright channel. Great for thick lead tones - think Brian May, Queen. Overall the NT is an angry version of the AC30, with less headroom and grunt, so I see it as an AC style amp with short man sybdrome.

Both really nice sounding amps, but the Laney will put you more in Marshall territory and give you better headroom for running pedals up front.
 
Re: Night train vs AC30s1 Doom/stoner/ classic rock

Adieu said:
That's....not a GH50L though???
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IMO...it’s better. Same wattage but with two channels and built in reverb. Has an extension can spot and the head can be disconnected and run though a cab if desired. Plus, my buddy is the tech who serviced it...says the low input is meesed up
 
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