No tension on truss rod

bluezone

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I'm getting ready to do my re-fret. I found out i have jumbo frets rather than med jumbo installed already in my 2004 Epip LP custom. :( So they are not likely original.
Now with a set of strings (10's) installed and everything adjusted for playing. There is about .010" of correct back bow (relief) with zero tension on the truss rod. With the strings off, less than 1/2 a turn on the truss rod brings the fret board to perfectly level. So basically. I have no adjustment room on the truss rod if things change. I'd like to have a bit more relief to allow lower string action. Would it be a stupid idea; when the frets are removed; to put tension on the truss rod (maybe a full turn) and level the fret board. Or am i playing with fire and should leave it alone? :arg:

EDIT: Quote: "If you're refretting a guitar with an adjustable truss rod, a good rule of thumb is to stabilize the humidity then make sure you have a little bit of excess relief (.020"ish +/-) prior to installing the frets. That .020" measurement is just a ball park, other factors such as how hard the truss rod is or isn't engaged, whether the neck has "fretboard tongue lift", etc... will also inform how much relief you sand into or out of the fretboard."

https://www.thegearpage.net/board/index.php?threads/fret-tang-slot-fit.1328784/

The above explains what i am talking about and answers my question.

ALSO: edited for complaints about nomenclature usage.
 
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Re: No tension on truss rod

I'm pretty sure back bow is the opposite of relief.

Beyond an initial setup, I rarely ever mess with truss rods. I screw with string gauges and different setups on my Strat all the time, and it's been years since I touched the truss rod. I bet you'll be ok.
 
Re: No tension on truss rod

Do you have enough experience to tackle a refret yourself? Some of your statements and the questions you’re asking would seem to indicate otherwise.

Just don’t want you to ruin your guitar.

When the strings are on and tuned to pitch, that tension should create the relief you’re looking for.
 
Re: No tension on truss rod

Do you have enough experience to tackle a refret yourself? Some of your statements and the questions you’re asking would seem to indicate otherwise.

Just don’t want you to ruin your guitar.

When the strings are on and tuned to pitch, that tension should create the relief you’re looking for.

This is only my second re-fret. 1st one went fine, zero issues. But that was 20 years ago and it didn't have a lack of adjustment in the truss rod. I do realize there is a second option, namely installing frets with slightly thinner shanks. The fret slots i have now are .024 (correction after sitting a day and a half the slots are .022", they have rebounded slightly) and the fret shank is approx .024 (I'm working with a dial vernier, I don't have a blade micrometer and I used to calibrate other peoples measuring equipment), but i have doubts as to if this option would work.

So, I'm looking for someone with more experience than myself to bounce ideas off of. I have experience setting-up, installing and assembling quite a variety of equipment, even designing stuff (parts, tools). Don't get hung up on any incorrect usage of nomenclature by myself.


The fret removal has gone has gone quite smoothly. Way past the point of should or should not on that. Let me worry about and/or
take the blame if I screw this up. I thought very long and hard before committing to working it out.

It is the question of should I perform a correction and what type I'm unsure about.

And thank very very much for your earnest concern of my making mistakes.

Edit:
Actually I may of found the problem. I was just reading that the fret tang should be .002 smaller than the fret slot on the neck. The old frets are the same size as the slot. Hummmm
 
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