Nobody's talked about Fender's personality cards yet?
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kramersteen
PowerMetalRaph
Re: Nobody's talked about Fender's personality cards yet?
Thatis cool! But i still don't want one.
Thatis cool! But i still don't want one.
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Funkfingers
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Re: Nobody's talked about Fender's personality cards yet?
+1
The card holder is completely unprotected. It is asking to get broken.
+1
The card holder is completely unprotected. It is asking to get broken.
Jolly_Rancher
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Re: Nobody's talked about Fender's personality cards yet?
WTH is wrong with Fender? Not only would I never buy a new Fender because they're made poorly/all over the place with quality and play-ability, but I like my guitars old fashioned. This is just ridiculous. Maybe some day in the future everyone will be using personality cards in their guitars, and my ranting will be washed up in the dark depths of the internet, but................................
WTH is wrong with Fender? Not only would I never buy a new Fender because they're made poorly/all over the place with quality and play-ability, but I like my guitars old fashioned. This is just ridiculous. Maybe some day in the future everyone will be using personality cards in their guitars, and my ranting will be washed up in the dark depths of the internet, but................................
Gone_Shootin
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Re: Nobody's talked about Fender's personality cards yet?
Um......no.
Um......no.
Jocelyn
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Nice interesting but no. IMO this is still better than that other Touch sensitive switch and tone pad. https://forum.seymourduncan.com/sho...ody-see-this-yet-Touch-sensitive-PU-switching
Nice interesting but no. IMO this is still better than that other Touch sensitive switch and tone pad. https://forum.seymourduncan.com/sho...ody-see-this-yet-Touch-sensitive-PU-switching
tonechaser
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Re: Nobody's talked about Fender's personality cards yet?
That seems pretty cool but I prefer when they bring there ax to me for mods. Just being selfish I guess. Also like stated earlier is seems prone to getting broken. If the card breaks you can probably get a new one pretty cheap but if the connection in the guitar breaks that can be a whole different issue. Will techs be able to order and fix them or do you have to send it back to FMIC. And even if a tech can get the guts so to speak what will it take to switch them out. To me the simpler the better for guitar circuits though you'd never guess that if you opened the control cavity in my #1 and saw everything going on in there. It's the one in my avatar. Triple tapped pups dual concentric pots and two treble bleeds that I used Vit Q's in and they aren't all that small. I never plan on changing that design for no other reason then all the headaches and planning it took to get it all to fit. Well that and it sounds amazing IMO.
That seems pretty cool but I prefer when they bring there ax to me for mods. Just being selfish I guess. Also like stated earlier is seems prone to getting broken. If the card breaks you can probably get a new one pretty cheap but if the connection in the guitar breaks that can be a whole different issue. Will techs be able to order and fix them or do you have to send it back to FMIC. And even if a tech can get the guts so to speak what will it take to switch them out. To me the simpler the better for guitar circuits though you'd never guess that if you opened the control cavity in my #1 and saw everything going on in there. It's the one in my avatar. Triple tapped pups dual concentric pots and two treble bleeds that I used Vit Q's in and they aren't all that small. I never plan on changing that design for no other reason then all the headaches and planning it took to get it all to fit. Well that and it sounds amazing IMO.
IMENATOR
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Re: Nobody's talked about Fender's personality cards yet?
I really like the idea, it reminds me the Musicman Game Changer concept, but it seems like more user friendly since no need to plug to a PC to reconfigure your electronics. However I wonder how much you can do with that currently cannot be done by simply putting a super 5 way switch and adding some push/pull pots or toggle swithch, otherwise I don't see the point of this, other that trying to make you buy a more expensive guitar. I think you get more versatility with the roland strat.
I really like the idea, it reminds me the Musicman Game Changer concept, but it seems like more user friendly since no need to plug to a PC to reconfigure your electronics. However I wonder how much you can do with that currently cannot be done by simply putting a super 5 way switch and adding some push/pull pots or toggle swithch, otherwise I don't see the point of this, other that trying to make you buy a more expensive guitar. I think you get more versatility with the roland strat.
crusty philtrum
Vintageologist
Re: Nobody's talked about Fender's personality cards yet?
Nothing beats minimal, good-quality solder joints and a few pieces of decent wire. Work out what wiring configuration you want, wire it up carefully, screw it back together and play the damm thing. We already have a pile of junk that can cause problems (cables, pedals, amps, speakers), it's nice to at least keep the instrument simple and reliable.
Nothing beats minimal, good-quality solder joints and a few pieces of decent wire. Work out what wiring configuration you want, wire it up carefully, screw it back together and play the damm thing. We already have a pile of junk that can cause problems (cables, pedals, amps, speakers), it's nice to at least keep the instrument simple and reliable.
chadd
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Re: Nobody's talked about Fender's personality cards yet?
For guys that are worried about resale value, this will let them "mod" and get a sound that works better for them without impacting resale value. It's not really all that big of a deal to me though. The cards are supposed to be analog but it doesn't seem like there is much to/on them. It makes me wonder how much extra stuff is pre-installed on the guitar itself.
For guys that are worried about resale value, this will let them "mod" and get a sound that works better for them without impacting resale value. It's not really all that big of a deal to me though. The cards are supposed to be analog but it doesn't seem like there is much to/on them. It makes me wonder how much extra stuff is pre-installed on the guitar itself.
Re: Nobody's talked about Fender's personality cards yet?
There really shouldn't be any "extra" stuff in the guitar, as all the "wiring" is printed on the card's circuit board. The pups just plug into a connector instead of being soldered onto switches/pots.
While I personally will never own or use this system, I commend Fender for coming up with a unique & fairly practical product. I bet this would be pretty popular on their less expensive MIM strats. I can't imagine that it costs too much to implement when compared to standard wiring/soldering that has to be done by hand.
Don't modern Gibson guitars use a PCB in the control cavity?
There really shouldn't be any "extra" stuff in the guitar, as all the "wiring" is printed on the card's circuit board. The pups just plug into a connector instead of being soldered onto switches/pots.
While I personally will never own or use this system, I commend Fender for coming up with a unique & fairly practical product. I bet this would be pretty popular on their less expensive MIM strats. I can't imagine that it costs too much to implement when compared to standard wiring/soldering that has to be done by hand.
Don't modern Gibson guitars use a PCB in the control cavity?
Re: Nobody's talked about Fender's personality cards yet?
It has a door cover like the ones you'd house a 9v battery in.
It has a door cover like the ones you'd house a 9v battery in.
crusty philtrum
Vintageologist
Re: Nobody's talked about Fender's personality cards yet?
Why don't they just build a switch that can select any configuration ? No cards required.
Why don't they just build a switch that can select any configuration ? No cards required.
Gearjoneser
Gear Ho
Re: Nobody's talked about Fender's personality cards yet?
I think it's a good innovative idea, and I'm glad to see Fender doing it, so they can't be accused of doing nothing but stamping out strats and teles like pancakes.
I've always liked the idea of pickups using a standardized quick connect, but their idea takes it even further.
If this system doesn't add a huge pricetag to a Fender, I could see myself owning one at some point. It would be great to have a handful of Fender pickups and all the cards that come with the guitar. The price is the only issue.........and possibly tone if all that micro spaghetti thins out the tone. I'll give them the benefit of the doubt for now.
I think it's a good innovative idea, and I'm glad to see Fender doing it, so they can't be accused of doing nothing but stamping out strats and teles like pancakes.
I've always liked the idea of pickups using a standardized quick connect, but their idea takes it even further.
If this system doesn't add a huge pricetag to a Fender, I could see myself owning one at some point. It would be great to have a handful of Fender pickups and all the cards that come with the guitar. The price is the only issue.........and possibly tone if all that micro spaghetti thins out the tone. I'll give them the benefit of the doubt for now.
chadd
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Re: Nobody's talked about Fender's personality cards yet?
As for Gibson, their PC Board is more about reducing assembly time than anything else.
At a minimum, everything is going to be wired to the card socket and not in a more traditional way. If that is all that they have done, you will be limited in the "personalities" that you can use. Over the long term, I would have some concerns about the connectors for the card getting dirty. It's an interesting concept, and I applaud them for trying something new, I just don't really see the value in it yet for me. When they get to the point where all of the controls are "socket-ed" or quick connect, things will really get interesting. Being able to pop out your tone knob and replace it with a TBX or clapton boost in as little time as swapping the card is when this stuff really gets interesting. Putting it on one model is putting a toe in the water to test customer reaction and the viability of the concept.
As for Gibson, their PC Board is more about reducing assembly time than anything else.
Johnny the Kid
Shaunofthedeadologist
Re: Nobody's talked about Fender's personality cards yet?
I would actually think about getting one. They are $1,499 on Guitar Center's website. Yeah it's probably in the "if it ain't broke don't fix it" camp, but think about it this way. You don't have to do any mods, and when you want to change your tone (say in the middle of a show) you can just pop open the battery latch, plug in a new card and then be good to go. It's something definitely worth checking out, and in my mind another step towards all guitars being completely solder-less.
I would actually think about getting one. They are $1,499 on Guitar Center's website. Yeah it's probably in the "if it ain't broke don't fix it" camp, but think about it this way. You don't have to do any mods, and when you want to change your tone (say in the middle of a show) you can just pop open the battery latch, plug in a new card and then be good to go. It's something definitely worth checking out, and in my mind another step towards all guitars being completely solder-less.
Re: Nobody's talked about Fender's personality cards yet?
That's what I was trying to get at. If most all the wiring is switched to PCB, then I'd venture to guess that this system might be easy to integrate into the build process & therefore feasible on their less expensive instruments.
That's what I was trying to get at. If most all the wiring is switched to PCB, then I'd venture to guess that this system might be easy to integrate into the build process & therefore feasible on their less expensive instruments.
ratherdashing
Kablamminator
Re: Nobody's talked about Fender's personality cards yet?
Folks, keep in mind this is the Deluxe Strat Plus, i.e. not intended for the vintage purist.
It's also obviously not intended for the crowd who is already comfortable with modding their own electronics.
If you fall into these two categories, it's pretty much okay that you don't like this system. You're not the intended audience. Fender has other models for you.
I can see this being a big win for a studio guitarist who wants to be able to dial in a specific tone without permanently (or even semi-permanently) altering the guitar.
Folks, keep in mind this is the Deluxe Strat Plus, i.e. not intended for the vintage purist.
It's also obviously not intended for the crowd who is already comfortable with modding their own electronics.
If you fall into these two categories, it's pretty much okay that you don't like this system. You're not the intended audience. Fender has other models for you.
I can see this being a big win for a studio guitarist who wants to be able to dial in a specific tone without permanently (or even semi-permanently) altering the guitar.