Noise Supressors?

[Grizzly_Diesel]

Im looking for some advice on a good noise suppressor. i bought a boss ns-2 for cheap a while back and at low volumes it works great. but once i crank the volume it just doesn't quite cut it. whats the difference between a noise suppressor and a noise gate? what do you all suggest for a decent noise gate?

 

[St_Genesius]

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All noise gates are noise suppressor, but not all noise suppressors are noise gates.

Gates are the simplest. They simply set a threshold, below which all (or most, depending on settings)signal is cut off. They tend to work well as long as you don't need to hear the natural decay of a note/chord. There are also multi band gates, which filter individual frequency ranges separately. And then there are other types of noise reduction devices and plugins that, as far as I understand, are just plain powered by voodoo.

 

[Grizzly_Diesel]

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aah sounds pretty complex. so for me all i wanna do is eliminate the hum and be able to stop a note on the spot. what do you suggest?

 

[ehdwuld]

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behringer NR300
if it were something you would be turning on and off, maybe you should get something of a higher quality
but this is an always on, "at-the-end-of-the-chain," Pedal

 

[Wormhelmet]

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I will swear by the ISP Decimator II G-string. Smartest gate I have ever used. Amazing design goes both at the beginning of your guitar pedal chain and after the noisiest components but before delays and reverb, all in the same pedal. Guitar in, guitar out, decimator in, decimator out. Tracks the signal at guitar ins and applies gate at decimator ins. Always squeezes the last bit of pure guitar signal out before applying gate effect. Amazing gate

 

[IM4Tone]

Re: Noise Supressors?

behringer NR300
if it were something you would be turning on and off, maybe you should get something of a higher quality
but this is an always on, "at-the-end-of-the-chain," Pedal

I use one of these pedals in combination with a couple of very noisey emulating pedals I own. It does the job and for $25 is a worthwhile experiment. You can "feel" it kick in/out as it functions, so it's not 100% transparent, but listeners won't notice it.
Yep, the Behringer pedals are plastic, so continual 'stomping' probably isn't a good idea.

 

[Rand-O-Monium]

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Heard nothing but good things about the ISPs...

 

[St_Genesius]

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That would be my pick for a pedal-based NR, as well. Definitely falls under "runs on magic" for me, because I have no idea how it works. But it does.

I will swear by the ISP Decimator II G-string. Smartest gate I have ever used. Amazing design goes both at the beginning of your guitar pedal chain and after the noisiest components but before delays and reverb, all in the same pedal. Guitar in, guitar out, decimator in, decimator out. Tracks the signal at guitar ins and applies gate at decimator ins. Always squeezes the last bit of pure guitar signal out before applying gate effect. Amazing gate

 

[Johnny the Kid]

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I used an MXR Smart Gate for a while. No noise in my signal. The Decimator is a good choice too.

 

[scottcrud]

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I used and swore by a Boss NS-2 for about 6 years. Used a ISP Descimator once and bought it. It's just better than the boss.

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[PFDarkside]

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What's the difference between the $125 ISP and the $225 ISP?

 

[Jeff5]

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Another vote for the ISP. Just not worth messing around with anything else in my opinion. I've owned the G String II pedal, older ISP Pedal and Rackmount Gstring II (best of all of them). They are fantastic.

 

[dominus]

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What's the difference between the $125 ISP and the $225 ISP?

The G-String ($225 model) has the loop.

Rocktron has a similar model called the Guitar Silencer. Whether it's as good as the ISP is debatable, but it is $100 less.

 

[Wormhelmet]

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The G-String ($225 model) has the loop.

Rocktron has a similar model called the Guitar Silencer. Whether it's as good as the ISP is debatable, but it is $100 less.

Is that really the same? ISP is not a loop really. If you just use guitar in, guitar out, there is no gating. You have to use the dec in dec out jacks. That is where the gating happens. Guitar in/out jacks are just meant to hook up and track guitar signal, then when signal gets to weakest point, applies gate at dec in. Dec out is gated signal back to whatever next pedal is.

Example would be signal chain like this:

Guitar - isp guitar in, isp guitar out, wah, dirt box, amp, fx send to dec in, dec out to delay, chorus, reverb, fx return.

Tracks guitar, applies gate after preamp gain and all noisy sources, delays after for tails to ring out.

Hadn't seen the Rocktron one, but if the send and return are required for gating, then it is the same

 

[Wormhelmet]

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I just read through the Rocktron manual and indeed it does work the same. Hadn't seen that one before. Nice find.

 

[IMENATOR]

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If you only play with distortion on then ISP Decimator II should be enough but when switching to clean you may need to turn it off. If you want to switch from clean to distortion back and forth the Decimator Ii G-String is the one, it tracks the clean guitar input to trigger the noise gate to control whatever is in its loop. You just can't go wrong with Decimators.

 

[IMENATOR]

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I just read through the Rocktron manual and indeed it does work the same. Hadn't seen that one before. Nice find.

Wasn't the owner of ISP a co-founder of Rocktron? I think that explains a bit why they have similar approach.

 

[Hank-]

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The difference between a noise gate & noise suppressor don't make sense to me. Maybe on a pc you get different things but in the pedal form aren't these essentially doing the same thing? The boss ns2 has the feature to control the decay which the isp gstring doesn't. Otherwise they all seem to be variations of the same principal function, gating the signal by adjusting the threshold, some with more controls available than others. Perhaps the difference lies in the marketing name chosen by the brand here?

The ehx hum debugger is a different thing, where i think it phase cancels 60 cycle hum from single coils, would this be considered as a noise suppressor without the ability to gate? If so then are there other pedals like it?

 

[Jeff5]

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I'll even add that the G String II with the loop is better than the first version and the version with no loop. I've owned all of them. The rackmount is the only one that does not do anything to your clean tones and even does a pretty good job with rolled back volume. A close second is the G String II with the loop. I've used the NS-2, older Decimator with no loop and the built in one in my G Major 2,and none even come close to those.

 

[80's_Metal]

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I have used the older rocktron hush pedals.

I currently use the ISP decimator in a pedal, not the version 2, but the original one.
It is flat amazing, no sag in tone, only cuts the hiss/noise.
My favorite by far.