NPD - Gotta keep an open mind, it's good for the soul....

phil_104

Cheesesteakologist
It seems lately, every time I go a shop to pick up a specific piece of gear, I end up comparing it to something else, and I never end getting what the make or model I had researched, and that seemed to be the perfect item for me.

For those of you who have seen my posts around here in the past, you might recall that I played through a Mesa Stiletto. Now, life happens, circumstances (musical and non-musical) happen; long story short, I no longer have the Mesa. I know, I know, I fee the same way. Had to pick up a little combo, something that was not super expensive and I could still dig. Went with a Ltd Edition Blues Jr, with an upgraded speaker and all that jazz. Why? Because I loved the basic tone of it, I've gigged with fender amps with great success, and it just sounded right to my ears. The ONLY thing it was missing, was a good distortion sound.

Enter the search for a distortion pedal.

Now, you gotta understand, I was use to playing my Les Paul through a ****ing Mesa. I'm picky about my distortion. I never was into super high gain, but I love the responsive, aggressive nature of a tube distortion, but I like mine to cut and stay articulate (thus the Stiletto).

So I do a bunch of research, including here, and in my mind, I am so hard for the ZVex Box of Rock. Like seriously, I read everywhere that this will get you so close to the "everything on 10" Marshall sound, that it will solve my problems, and I will be happy for ever. So couple of days ago, I'm marching myself down to get said pedal.

So I get there and I start talking to the guy, whom I know and trust. He kinda knows what I'm into. There is a BOR there, I plug it in, it sounds great, I love it, etc, etc, etc. So now, just for my own personal satisfaction, I have to validate my choice by comparing it to other pedals in store. I start with a few different pedals, eventually making my way to the Fulltone OCD.

It sounded like a bag of dicks. For those of you who would be unsure as to if this is a good or bad thing; it is not a good thing. In fact, I was so surprised as to how much I disliked this very popular pedal, that I had to ask the guy if something was wrong with it. He laughed, said it was a love it or hate it type of pedal for a lot of people. Then, he says to me that if I don't dig that one, I might dig the Fulltone Plimsoul.

Now I've never heard of this pedal. I still want to try it, so the BOR can destroy it. WRONG. SO, SO WRONG. BAM. WHOOP. There it is. I plug the Plimsoul in, and I gotta say, there is no way to describe on a forum the type of response you get from this pedal. That was the first thing that struck me; how much this pedal responds like a tube amp distortion.

The BOR had a great distortion, but I dig a lot of articulation. When you raise the gain on the BOR, it gets more saturated, but to my ears, it gets fuzzy or wooly if you will. Not so much what I was looking for. Now, the Plimsoul can get those tones no problem; and almost sound like a muff. But it has this tiny little "Stage 2" knob, that controls another layer of gain. If you crank your normal gain know (or sustain in this case), you'll get in BOR territory. If you start engaging the Stage 2 section, it's almost like you maintain that saturation, but it compresses just a bit, and clears up like mad. The tone knob on the pedal also seemed a lot more responsive to me; not getting to muddy or two brittle, but changing the tone type of what I was playing, and adding just enough cut, as per my taste.

Compared to the OCD, it's like if they made a it's anti-thesis. The OCD, to my ears, had a slightly scooped midrange, and a distortion or crunch that was very distinct and percussive. The Plimsoul on the other hand, has a really cool and present mid and low mid range, that just sounds so musical and full. It has a lot of presence and weight behind it's sound. It also didn't feel as closed in terms of tonal possibilities, but rather very versatile. It has more gain than the OCD because of the Stage 2, but manages to remain more musical and more organic.

I'd love to describe the sound in detail, but really this pedal is about how it reacts and feels. You sorta have to try it for yourself. It's probably one of the best distortions I've played. So versatile, so useful, great pedal. Try one, maybe you'll dig it.
 
Re: NPD - Gotta keep an open mind, it's good for the soul....

Plimsoul is amazing, and I am looking hard at it as well for my next pedal. I have the Distortron (which is essentially a BOR with some more tone sculpting options, and no boost).

They are very different, as is the OCD, which I know is a big fave for alot of folks, but I did not like the one, and only one, I have played. That said, it may sound great through my current rig, IDK. But I think it's probably better for people who prefer a more modern sounding gain (i.e post 1990), or whom are trying to marshall-ize a non marshall amp. which is not me. I find it obnoxious sounding in a bad way.

I would not try to dissuade you from the Plimsoul, but I have a feeling based on what you felt the BOR would not do, the Distortron will do for you in it's "high gain" mode. In low gain, its that JTM45 type thing as the BOR, in high gain its like a souped up MetalFace- much tighter, more articulate, more mids, ,etc. 2 very different Marshal tones: 1965, and 1975

But the Plimsoul has that ability to dial in just the amount of hard clip you want, if you want, and that ss what I love about it, and makes it unique (to my knowledge). and of course it has that nice OD character with the hard clip off. You certainly can do no wrong with it.
 
Re: NPD - Gotta keep an open mind, it's good for the soul....

I would not try to dissuade you from the Plimsoul, but I have a feeling based on what you felt the BOR would not do, the Distortron will do for you in it's "high gain" mode. In low gain, its that JTM45 type thing as the BOR, in high gain its like a souped up MetalFace- much tighter, more articulate, more mids, ,etc. 2 very different Marshal tones: 1965, and 1975

But the Plimsoul has that ability to dial in just the amount of hard clip you want, if you want, and that ss what I love about it, and makes it unique (to my knowledge). and of course it has that nice OD character with the hard clip off. You certainly can do no wrong with it.

I have tried the Distortron, and it's a great pedal. If I had gone ZVex, that would have been the one, and then I would have added a boost. It has sooo much more potential to sculpt your sound. I agree that the high gain mode got closer to what I wanted than the BOR, no question there.

The one thing that pushed the Plimsoul in front of the Distortron, was the "in between sounds" I could get, as you pointed out when talking about the hard clip. I felt the distortron had a gap between the low and hi gain modes; almost like you had 2 distortion pedals. Great for a lot of folks, but I prefered being able to roll in the clipping gradually, as oppose to flicking a switch.

Overall though, I gotta agree, you can't really go wrong; the BOR, Distorton, and Plimsoul are all really, really solid distortions. Different flavors.
 
Re: NPD - Gotta keep an open mind, it's good for the soul....

Yep, there is a big difference between the hi and low on the Distortron- 2 Marshalls for the price of one ;)

I'm totally witcha on the Plimsoul- it sounds amazing and I WANT :bigthumb:
 
Re: NPD - Gotta keep an open mind, it's good for the soul....

Yep, there is a big difference between the hi and low on the Distortron- 2 Marshalls for the price of one ;)

I'm totally witcha on the Plimsoul- it sounds amazing and I WANT :bigthumb:

Yeah dude, I agree on the two Marshall thing. It's a GREAT pedal.

Funny situation; you have the Distorton and want to add a Plimsoul, I have a Plimsoul and want to add a Distorton.

Funny how that works.
 
Re: NPD - Gotta keep an open mind, it's good for the soul....

Congrats, sounds like one to try!
 
Re: NPD - Gotta keep an open mind, it's good for the soul....

Thanks for the great review! I have been trying to decide between a Plimsoul and the Rockett Animal Overdrive without having the opportunity to audition either .... not easy.
 
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I just can't believe you got rid of the Mesa. As far as I could tell, that put you into tonal nirvana. And I hate to dig, but was it financial trouble that forced you into it, or was it a tonal decision?
 
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I just can't believe you got rid of the Mesa. As far as I could tell, that put you into tonal nirvana. And I hate to dig, but was it financial trouble that forced you into it, or was it a tonal decision?

I have no problem saying why I got rid of it. Not financial to be honest, but more like a variety of circumstances.

I started gigging a lot more than what I use to, and the Mesa was nice, but it was also huge. With carrying a drumkit around, and a bass rig, we already have to take 2 cars, and my Mesa meant having to take a third. Thus, it never got out of the basement. Once we got to 95% of the places, it killed people in the front of the stage, and I had to keep the volume fairly low. When we played bigger shows, it was glorious, but just not that practical.

So it sat in the rehearsal room, never seeing action. That was a lot of cash for me to have just sitting there. A very big, very expensive rehearsal amp.

Now, I had been playing fender amps before getting into Mesa. LOVE the cleans of a fender. So I picked up a Blues Jr with a different speaker, and I LOVE it. It's very different from the Mesa (obviously), but it's allowing me to do a lot more with cleans. Also, it allows me more control over my sound in most live situations.

The only thing missing was a good distortion. That was the best part of the Mesa. But with this pedal, even though I'm not getting what the Mesa put out, it gets me 98% of the way there, which is a lot more than I expected out of any pedal.

So now I find myself with a rig that gets more use, that I find more practical, that gets me all the tones I want, and just plain works for me. It's funny how the world of music goes; often, what is good in a controlled environment, or in theory, doesn't really apply to the reality of a very active gigging musician.

The good news is, after selling the Mesa, I was able to pick up a really nice Gretsch PowerJet, that I'm really, really bonding with.

But yes, that Mesa did put me in tonal nirvana, and it was not easy. With that said, I front a band, and getting it done, and focusing on the music was what I decided to prioritize. Cheers!
 
Re: NPD - Gotta keep an open mind, it's good for the soul....

Thanks for the great review! I have been trying to decide between a Plimsoul and the Rockett Animal Overdrive without having the opportunity to audition either .... not easy.

Congrats, sounds like one to try!

You really do. Not the end all of distortion pedals, but it has a very specific sound and a lot of flexibility. Worth checking out.
 
Re: NPD - Gotta keep an open mind, it's good for the soul....

The best amp in the world isn't helping if it's not being used. Glad you got something useful. As long as you never get rid of that Les Paul, I can appreciate what you did. :D
 
Re: NPD - Gotta keep an open mind, it's good for the soul....

The best amp in the world isn't helping if it's not being used. Glad you got something useful. As long as you never get rid of that Les Paul, I can appreciate what you did. :D

Lol, thanks man.

The Les Paul and I have been through some things lately. There is already to many good stories in that guitar to get rid of it. That guitar has seen some interesting things.
 
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