St_Genesius
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I've had this MFing thing on backorder since it was announced back in The Before Times. Finally delivered today.
Anything you wanna know?
Anything you wanna know?
NPD: TC Plethora X5
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How does it sound?
Did they add any MIDI support?
Did they allow you to “reverse” the loop structure?
By the way, super cool you got one!
Did they add any MIDI support?
Did they allow you to “reverse” the loop structure?
By the way, super cool you got one!
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-Like all the Toneprint pedals.
-Not that I'm aware of. Not something I've ever really thought about, of I'm honest.
-They've said it's coming. I'm def in favor of it. L-R is super dumb.
-Not that I'm aware of. Not something I've ever really thought about, of I'm honest.
-They've said it's coming. I'm def in favor of it. L-R is super dumb.
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I've never really liked any of TC's drive pedals, so I'm okay leaving them out.
But I wouldn't be surprised if they show up in a later product.
But I wouldn't be surprised if they show up in a later product.
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Yeah, my pedalboard is getting RADICALLY changed by this. I'm especially excited by the ability to set up different boards that patch my drive pedals in at different points, because I've tended to keep an extra reverb pedal on my board just for running in FRONT of the dirt. It's a thing that not a lot of people do, but I actually really like the sound...just not all the time.
I do hope they add the patches from the T2 reverb pedal, as that's been a mainstay on my board for years, but god knows there are plenty to choose from even if they don't.
I do hope they add the patches from the T2 reverb pedal, as that's been a mainstay on my board for years, but god knows there are plenty to choose from even if they don't.
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Are there Toneprints from the Alter Ego?
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Not yet, but maybe later?
I think this may be the video you need to see: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FJvbOLWiYpQ
That does remind me, though, I need to update the firmware. I haven't done that yet.
I think this may be the video you need to see: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FJvbOLWiYpQ
That does remind me, though, I need to update the firmware. I haven't done that yet.
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Updated the firmware. The only obvious addition is the tuner. Maybe I should check the patch notes.
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Looks like the newest firmware actually DID expand the MIDI options a bit. Instead of just being able to change boards via MIDI, you can now (if I'm understanding this correctly) individually trigger each pedal via MIDI. Nothing on controlling individual parameters yet, though. If that's even a thing. Like I said, I really don't know anything about MIDI.
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That’s a huge step though. You could have it mounted remotely and access by MIDI with this update instead of just using like a board.
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Oh, and now that I think about it, you could effectively use it to change the parameters anyway, because the pedal settings are saved with the specific board. So just have it switch to a new, mostly identical board, and turn on all the same pedals, but with different settings. With 127 virtual boards to play with, there's plenty of room for doing stuff like that.
MIDI, as it implemented in many multi-effects, allows this. As far as the Plethora goes, my guess is that it was released before being fully realized (like a lot of products these days), and the hope is that they will add features in upcoming months. The key is using it a lot, and figuring out what features you want, and letting the company know. This is the way many products develop.
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Speaking of twisting something to work the way I want it to, rather than how it's presented: the multiband compressor turns out to be a pretty decent EQ and boost. I think it's kicking one of my dirt pedals off the board, because I was only using that pedal as EQ and to goose the front of the amp a tiny bit.
Now to decide whether the Sub'n'up can take the place of my Bit Commander. It's not the same, but...it might be close enough.
Now to decide whether the Sub'n'up can take the place of my Bit Commander. It's not the same, but...it might be close enough.
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Yeah, high threshold, low ratio and then your makeup gain becomes boost. My monkey brain can handle that.
But multiband compressors, the few times I've messed with them, kinda make my head hurt trying to figure them out. I'm only using the presets here right now, but there's some DEEPLY serious tone shaping going on. Like "make a dark guitar TOO bright" serious. So I think I'm gonna need to learn.
But multiband compressors, the few times I've messed with them, kinda make my head hurt trying to figure them out. I'm only using the presets here right now, but there's some DEEPLY serious tone shaping going on. Like "make a dark guitar TOO bright" serious. So I think I'm gonna need to learn.
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Further thoughts:
-I kinda HATE to admit this, but the L->R thing is easy to adapt to. Especially since putting my drive pedals in the effects loop of the Plethora and having that loop change positions depending on the board means that the physical location of the pedals means less than it ever has.
- I wish it had an EQ pedal. As mentioned, the compressor can be bent that way, but it's an overly complex solution.
- The preset boards are mostly useless. This is a pedal you need to set up for yourself. And since it's actually 12-13 pedals, with crazy amounts of tweaking available under the hood and rearrangeable with the flick of a switch... There's a learning curve.
-I kinda HATE to admit this, but the L->R thing is easy to adapt to. Especially since putting my drive pedals in the effects loop of the Plethora and having that loop change positions depending on the board means that the physical location of the pedals means less than it ever has.
- I wish it had an EQ pedal. As mentioned, the compressor can be bent that way, but it's an overly complex solution.
- The preset boards are mostly useless. This is a pedal you need to set up for yourself. And since it's actually 12-13 pedals, with crazy amounts of tweaking available under the hood and rearrangeable with the flick of a switch... There's a learning curve.
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