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[JeffB]

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Actually yesterday, and sorry, I installed it before I took a pic

Its like Billy Gibbons has possessed my amps, and is eating a big fat steak.

And hell its not even broke in yet. Once it does I will throw up some clips.

 

[PFDarkside]

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What amp/cab and what did you replace?

 

[MetalManiac]

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Hendrix used those speakers, but only cause his greenbacks blew up on him. Internet lore.

 

[MetalManiac]

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Hendrix used those speakers, but only cause his greenbacks blew up on him. he preferred the Greenbacks, cause they sound better. Internet lore.Those are the 55Hz right?

 

[JeffB]

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Class5/Tubemeister 18, Ampeg 1x12. V30,and WGS Green Beret made the rounds before it.

This is the 70th anni, Jerry-75hz

 

[MetalManiac]

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Oh man. I woulda spent the extra $ for the 75Hz made in England Heritages. 'Im honestly not trying to be antagonistic. Its just that 'Im not so sure about those MIC Anniversaries . Also, Scumback makes ridiculously faithful reproductions to the original G12h-30's, that by all accounts sound so much better, although they are pretty pricey.
I'm dead set against Webers cheaper G12h-30 clone , the G12H-30 Anniversary, and especially the budget G12h-30 knockoff WGS.

 

[JeffB]

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:shrug:

I have played a bunch of amps/cabs with them and have liked the annis from day one. They are more aggressive than the Heritage 75hz. If was going for more a 60s tone, I would have gone with the Heritage or maybe even the bass cone version

After my experience with the Green Beret, I am not interested in WGS anymore..nice speaker but certainly its own (liberal) take on a 12m.

Scumbacks were not a consideration based on $.

 

[the guy who invented fire]

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Any yet again Jerry proves that he is a fool that needs to spend far more time playing and truly working at music and far less time reading the internet and drinking until he can't read or spell.

Cool speaker Jeff!

I recently put a Weber 1230-55 in my 62 Deluxe and remembered how much I like the H30 speakers!

I gotta agree with the BFG part too...Billy used Greenbacks for a lot of years but I know there are some H30's in there too! There is a little stab to an H30 that a Greenback just doesn't have and the extra low end is a welcome addition in an open back combo for sure!

 

[the guy who invented fire]

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:shrug:

I have played a bunch of amps/cabs with them and have liked the annis from day one. They are more aggressive than the Heritage 75hz. If was going for more a 60s tone, I would have gone with the Heritage or maybe even the bass cone version

After my experience with the Green Beret, I am not interested in WGS anymore..nice speaker but certainly its own (liberal) take on a 12m.

Scumbacks were not a consideration based on $.

There is NOTHING wrong with the MIC Celestions...NOTHING!

AS for the Scumbacks...good speakers? Sure...but a lot of hype too!

 

[Gearjoneser]

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One of Celestion's best. I search Celestion on Craigslist very often, just waiting for bottom feeder prices for H30's, Creambacks, Alnicos, or clean vintage speakers. Since I don't feel a burning need to buy right away, I just wait for good stuff to pop up.
That's how I got my Creamback 65 for $90.

 

[MetalManiac]

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Any yet again Jerry proves that he is a fool that needs to spend far more time playing and truly working at music and far less time reading the internet and drinking until he can't read or spell.

So sue me..but it'll have to be a class action suit, casue theres about ten thousand other people besides who think the Heritages are so much better than the Annv.'s, and even that much better than the cheap Webers.
Scumback is very expensive, but according to all accounts, Jim got that speaker nailed dead on to a early 70's Rola G12h-30.
Not that the Anniversary is a bad speaker, only that its not as true to an original as a Heritage. I'm not trying to get in a pissing match here. Just that I'm hardly a fool for expressing an opinion shared by so many others.
BTW, I do not sahre TGWIF's belief in the Chinese speakers ; that they are as good as Made in UK. I do not, and will not ever own a MIC speaker! I do not belive in the QC.
Of course now I'm a fool now , although countless other people share my belief.

 

[JeffB]

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There is NOTHING wrong with the MIC Celestions...NOTHING!!

That has been my experience as well :shrug: i would rather they were still made in the UK and keep the jobs in the UK, , but soundwise, no issues once they break in.

 

[TwilightOdyssey]

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There is NOTHING wrong with the MIC Celestions...NOTHING!

AS for the Scumbacks...good speakers? Sure...but a lot of hype too!

As a former Scumback owner, I can tell you it all comes down to application. The 'best' speaker is not ALWAYS the best!!

 

[ErikH]

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I've got three MIC Celestions (CL80's) and haven't had one issue with them. They sound great and do what I need them too.

 

[BloodRose]

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So, this is a Green Beret Jeff? And you are happy with their line? Im still kinda new with speakers. Ive tweaked guitars to hell and back, but the only speaker change Ive ever done is in my PV classic 30. I replaced the stocker with a Private Jack. It stopped this thudding type of issue, but the tone is much darker. Id like to experiement more on maybe that amp, or replace the british series speakers in my carvin cab

 

[guitarkid]

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I have one of these in my DRRI. I love it!

 

[JeffB]

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So, this is a Green Beret Jeff? And you are happy with their line? Im still kinda new with speakers. Ive tweaked guitars to hell and back, but the only speaker change Ive ever done is in my PV classic 30. I replaced the stocker with a Private Jack. It stopped this thudding type of issue, but the tone is much darker. Id like to experiement more on maybe that amp, or replace the british series speakers in my carvin cab

BR, the WGS Green Beret is out. The new speaker is the 70th anniversary 12H30 from Celestion. Once the WGSGB broke in, I did not care for it.

As for changing speakers in general, they are half your tone. They will dramatically change it. Far more dramatic than pickups or pedals, or what have you. I am trying to find the best match for the TM18 for my tastes, an dthis H30 does address the big issues I have with the amp (lots of presence/glass, and thin sound with lower gain settings), but I am not sure it is enough. The amp is just voiced a bit too modern for me.

 

[Adieu]

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Btw, what amp?

 

[JeffB]

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Btw, what amp?

See post#5



Update- I LOVE this speaker with my own rig. It has helped both amps immensely, but the lil Class5 and Bogner Blue, and this speaker sounds absolutely fantastic. Due to my CTS, I have been feeling the need to drop down a string gauge but always hate the loss of beef when I try,.so.I go back up and suffer I put on some 9 blue steels the other day, No issues at all with the H30/70th. I was able to dial back in the bass and thickness and still sound beefy while having better clarity (in the good way, not thinned out way). Awesome stuff.

The coolest thing about it, IMO,is that with low gains and cleans it is still big, and wide open, and when you ramp up the gain it gets fat fat fat with a really nice compression that still has enough bite. I think the stoner/doom guys would love a quad of these...pushed hard it is totally old school Iommi.