Octave Fuzz without the Fuzz
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Chickenwings
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Re: Octave Fuzz without the Fuzz
digitech whammy
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TwilightOdyssey
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PFDarkside
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Re: Octave Fuzz without the Fuzz
Do you want the Octavia ring-mod clang or just octave?
Do you want the Octavia ring-mod clang or just octave?
some_dude
Raging BB Gunologist
Re: Octave Fuzz without the Fuzz
I think I can make do with just the octave. I don't need to nail the sound, just get close enough.
I think I can make do with just the octave. I don't need to nail the sound, just get close enough.
Falloffthebonetone
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Re: Octave Fuzz without the Fuzz
I believe the EHX POG doesn't add fuzz, and they just released a smaller version of it too. Though it's a bit pricey. I also 2nd the whammy.
Both are polyphonic and can go up and down with the octaves but the POG can do a lot more with adjusting the levels and blending the octaves while the whammy gives you more options to harmonize, a detune effect for chorusy stuff and straight up pitch shifting while being able to be expressively used rather than just setting it and playing.
I use the whammy for those extra reasons, but it arguably doesn't track as well and the POG can certainly do things the whammy can't too.
http://www.ehx.com/products/nano-pog
I believe the EHX POG doesn't add fuzz, and they just released a smaller version of it too. Though it's a bit pricey. I also 2nd the whammy.
Both are polyphonic and can go up and down with the octaves but the POG can do a lot more with adjusting the levels and blending the octaves while the whammy gives you more options to harmonize, a detune effect for chorusy stuff and straight up pitch shifting while being able to be expressively used rather than just setting it and playing.
I use the whammy for those extra reasons, but it arguably doesn't track as well and the POG can certainly do things the whammy can't too.
http://www.ehx.com/products/nano-pog
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Agileguy_101
Master of his Domain
Re: Octave Fuzz without the Fuzz
What you want is a clone of a Dan Armstrong green ringer. The lovepedal believe and the henretta purple octopus are IIRC both clones.
What you want is a clone of a Dan Armstrong green ringer. The lovepedal believe and the henretta purple octopus are IIRC both clones.
some_dude
Raging BB Gunologist
Agileguy_101
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Re: Octave Fuzz without the Fuzz
Sorry, I couldn't tell you as I've never played one. But IIRC (can't check now, I'm at work) this demo shows it with humbuckers.
Sorry, I couldn't tell you as I've never played one. But IIRC (can't check now, I'm at work) this demo shows it with humbuckers.
the guy who invented fire
Fuzzy. Guitars
Re: Octave Fuzz without the Fuzz
Digital octave up and analog octave up are very different from a tonal standpoint as well as just using it.
If you want something analog the Foxrox Octron is great to use with a dirty amp or an OD/dirt box. Also the Rx COB is an option or a Green Ringer type pedal might work too.
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Digital octave up and analog octave up are very different from a tonal standpoint as well as just using it.
If you want something analog the Foxrox Octron is great to use with a dirty amp or an OD/dirt box. Also the Rx COB is an option or a Green Ringer type pedal might work too.
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some_dude
Raging BB Gunologist
Re: Octave Fuzz without the Fuzz
After listening to some samples I'm after something along the lines of the Green Ringer... but I need something that tracks well with humbuckers and if I remember correct my old OctaFuzz didn't track well at all so I'm not sure hot the Green Ringer circuit will behave.
Any ideas?
After listening to some samples I'm after something along the lines of the Green Ringer... but I need something that tracks well with humbuckers and if I remember correct my old OctaFuzz didn't track well at all so I'm not sure hot the Green Ringer circuit will behave.
Any ideas?
the guy who invented fire
Fuzzy. Guitars
Re: Octave Fuzz without the Fuzz
I used an Octa Fuzz for years with buckers and with no issues. The catch with analog octave up is you've got to lean on the neck pickup and limit your note choice to the middle of the fingerboard and that holds true for them all.
The Green Ringer is a tad less picky but it's also a tad less traditional sounding as an octave up.
What have you tried?
What are you looking for it to do?
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I used an Octa Fuzz for years with buckers and with no issues. The catch with analog octave up is you've got to lean on the neck pickup and limit your note choice to the middle of the fingerboard and that holds true for them all.
The Green Ringer is a tad less picky but it's also a tad less traditional sounding as an octave up.
What have you tried?
What are you looking for it to do?
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some_dude
Raging BB Gunologist
Re: Octave Fuzz without the Fuzz
Probably easier if I answer the first question first... I've been listening to a lot of Soundgarden lately. On the albums Kim Thayil double tracked a few solos an octave apart and live he's using a Micro-POG to cover the sound. I thought the idea was cool and was looking to get one until I saw the price of a Micro-POG... then I started looking at other options... so I posted this thread... which got me thinkin 'bout Hendrix....
What I've tried is using the octave up on a TC Electronic G-Major. The problem is that puts the pitch shifter after the distortion and while it tracks flawlessly it's a little bland. I've had other pitch shifters in the past but as a rhythm player I never quite "got" how to use them. Now that I'm playing lead more I'm branching out some.
Probably easier if I answer the first question first... I've been listening to a lot of Soundgarden lately. On the albums Kim Thayil double tracked a few solos an octave apart and live he's using a Micro-POG to cover the sound. I thought the idea was cool and was looking to get one until I saw the price of a Micro-POG... then I started looking at other options... so I posted this thread... which got me thinkin 'bout Hendrix....
What I've tried is using the octave up on a TC Electronic G-Major. The problem is that puts the pitch shifter after the distortion and while it tracks flawlessly it's a little bland. I've had other pitch shifters in the past but as a rhythm player I never quite "got" how to use them. Now that I'm playing lead more I'm branching out some.
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Agileguy_101
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Re: Octave Fuzz without the Fuzz
I'm sorry if this seems like a noob statement, but you know the difference between a digital octave like the POG and a octave fuzz like the Octavia, right? I only ask because you seem a bit conflicted in your last post as to which one you actually want.
I'm sorry if this seems like a noob statement, but you know the difference between a digital octave like the POG and a octave fuzz like the Octavia, right? I only ask because you seem a bit conflicted in your last post as to which one you actually want.
some_dude
Raging BB Gunologist
Re: Octave Fuzz without the Fuzz
I know the difference... and I'm definitely conflicted. I started out wanting one thing and have gravitated towards another... but am still not totally sure which will best serve my purposes long term (and will probably have to experiment with both to find out).
And just to be clear, I don't want an octave fuzz - just the octave part - so that I can feed it into a high gain amp rather than into a fuzz.
I know the difference... and I'm definitely conflicted. I started out wanting one thing and have gravitated towards another... but am still not totally sure which will best serve my purposes long term (and will probably have to experiment with both to find out).
And just to be clear, I don't want an octave fuzz - just the octave part - so that I can feed it into a high gain amp rather than into a fuzz.
Agileguy_101
Master of his Domain
Re: Octave Fuzz without the Fuzz
a digital octave is nothing like the octave from an octavia or octave fuzzes.
a digital octave is nothing like the octave from an octavia or octave fuzzes.
PFDarkside
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Re: Octave Fuzz without the Fuzz
You did mention you like the tone of the Micro POG doubling though. I guess as long as you know what you are getting yourself into (analog vs digital) you can choose the one that fits your needs the best.
The traditional way to use an Octavia is to set the fuzz to minimum and use either a screaming Marshall or a Fuzz Face for the clipping portion. They produce more upper harmonic that way. Personally I really like that tone, but it's really a once or twice a set pedal.
You did mention you like the tone of the Micro POG doubling though. I guess as long as you know what you are getting yourself into (analog vs digital) you can choose the one that fits your needs the best.
the guy who invented fire
Fuzzy. Guitars
Re: Octave Fuzz without the Fuzz
The issue is this, analog octave up be it in an octave/fuzz or something like the Octron or COB it won't work lower than the 9th fret give or take, does little above the 15th fret give or take and won't do much besides making ugly noises on the bridge pickup.
The POG in its original format, the Micro or even the new Nano might be the ticket for your needs.
Even though they are sorta pricey they are way less than many other units out there and they seem to do well on the used market if you decide it's not for you.
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The issue is this, analog octave up be it in an octave/fuzz or something like the Octron or COB it won't work lower than the 9th fret give or take, does little above the 15th fret give or take and won't do much besides making ugly noises on the bridge pickup.
The POG in its original format, the Micro or even the new Nano might be the ticket for your needs.
Even though they are sorta pricey they are way less than many other units out there and they seem to do well on the used market if you decide it's not for you.
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the guy who invented fire
Fuzzy. Guitars
Octave Fuzz without the Fuzz
I wouldn't say it's traditional as many Octavia users crank the fuzz then roll it back to a clear octave with the guitars volume but this is the way I use my Octavia and it works great but it is still a limited use thing in terms of how it has to be used.
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I wouldn't say it's traditional as many Octavia users crank the fuzz then roll it back to a clear octave with the guitars volume but this is the way I use my Octavia and it works great but it is still a limited use thing in terms of how it has to be used.
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