OD Recommendation

Jeddie

Jeddie

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Hey guys! I have a Peavey Classic 30 with the blue mods done on it and a Hellatone (v30) speaker. I'm trying to get a bit more low end gain out of it. I've been researching a few OD's, namely the Timmy, OCD and Green Rhino. Anyone used these or recommend something else? Mainly looking for a more modern metal tone. I can fudge around with tubes here soon to try and get a little more out it that way also. Thanks guys!!
 
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Overdrive + Classic 30 will not get you modern metal, imo. You should probably be looking at a distortion pedal with a noise gate. I have a Bogner Uberschall and Empress Heavy; they will both fit the bill, but the Empress has 2 channels and a noise gate. Empress also makes a single channel distortion pedal, which is one side of the heavy. I don't know if it also has a noise gate, though.
 
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Thanks for the info. You may be right. I was trying to not get a distortion pedal at all, just wanted the amp to do it's thing. I know it wasn't meant for it but would like to see if I can get close without one.
 
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I don't think the Classic 30 will have enough preamp gain on tap to get into metal territory. Do let us know how you get on!
 
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I had a Classic 50 head a while back and it was not much of an amp for gain. You could hit hard rock levels with it and a good pedal, but metal may be out of reach.
 
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I can recommend a great OD pedal (the 805) but I don't think the Classic 30 has the low end to remain tight. Not enough gain. You might check out the Palladium, though, which will add more than enough gain into a clean amp.
 
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i agree, i think you are probably better served using the amps dirty channel for blues/rock and the clean channel with a high gain pedal for metal. you could set the clean tone + pedal for your rhythm tone and set the dirty channel + pedal as your lead tone. leaving the pedal on to get the gain and just setting the dirty channel for a touch more volume and grit
 
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I agree with others than an OD is probably not gonna get you the Metal tones.

If you are wanting something for Metal I would suggest taking a look at the Mad Professor Stone Grey or EHX Metal Muff w/Top Boost.
 
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I don't have one but, the Fulltone Plimsoul is supposed to have a wide range from OD->Distortion->Fuzz. The Wampler Velvet Fuzz has similar OD->Distortion->Fuzz capabilities as well.
 
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It almost certainly won't be the metal sound you're looking for, but a treble booster would rule into that amp cranked up.
 
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The only way to get modern metal out of that amp is to run it clean and run a Bogner Uberschall or SD Palladium or similar into it.
 
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Lampy H said:
It almost certainly won't be the metal sound you're looking for, but a treble booster would rule into that amp cranked up.
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That's the only reason I haven't acquired a treble booster by now due to the need for cranking an amp with the treble booster engaged in order to get those sweet overdriven tones. I've never been a crank it to 10 kinda guy. Maybe that's why I still have my hearing intact at my age.
 
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TwilightOdyssey said:
Overdrive + Classic 30 will not get you modern metal, imo. You should probably be looking at a distortion pedal with a noise gate. I have a Bogner Uberschall and Empress Heavy; they will both fit the bill, but the Empress has 2 channels and a noise gate. Empress also makes a single channel distortion pedal, which is one side of the heavy. I don't know if it also has a noise gate, though.
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My experience is that if the amp isn't voiced for a modern sound on its own, no pedal will make it sound that way. Maybe I just tried the wrong pedals, but I tried a lot. That said, the Truetone OD's are really nice. Especially if you can find an Open Road and stack that on your amp's dirt or with a distortion pedal...or a V3 series dirt pedal... V3 Jeckyl and Hyde might get you close; but the voicing of the amp will always be a factor.
 
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I don't know about that. Modern pedals like the Palladium are designed to provide you with a missing gain channel or another gain stage. They certainly can do tight, over the top gain like many metal amps can. You are still limited by the EQ of the cab and the efficiency of the speaker, though.
 
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In the OP's position, I would take the amp to a music store that carries many pedals in order to specifically try them out on his particular amp (unless they already have an amp just like his). That's the only way to know for sure and not waste any more money, time, or effort in the process.
 
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Also bear in mind that if you get a pedal such as a Bogner Ecstasy Red, or one of the AMT distortion pedals, or any similar pedals, you may have to run it into the effects return of the amp. Because some amps don't get along at all with those pedals going into the guitar input.
 
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I've been reading and checking out all your recommendations. With the blue mods and the Hellatone, I'm pretty close. I think with a transparent OD i can get to a decent spot. If not I'll pick up a MZ-2 (HAHA) until I get a more metal friendly amp.

I appreciate all of the info you guys provided.
 
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I too have a classic 30. what benefit/changes did you get with the blue mods? I have both an ocd and green rhino and neither will push that amp to metal territory. Classic rock to hard rock perhaps.. FWIW, I have an Eminence Private Jack in mine..
 
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I'm not sure yet, I havn't cracked her open. I got it that way but the obvious is the Hellatone 30 speaker. I'll get back to you when I do find out all the mods.
 
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