Odd wiring possible or not on a Epiphone Firebird?

[yauckt]

Hello All,

Waiting tools to finish my squier cyclone modification, i can't stay without soldering something

I had another odd wiring idea on a Epiphone Firebird with mini humbuckers. (so basic gibson setup with 2 pickups, 3 way toggle, 2 volumes, 2 tones)

Here's the deal :
We assume that 2 humbuckers contains 4 coils. Let's present them this way :

Is is possible to wire this (without addition of push/pull or anything else) to get :

A+B in serie in neck position (stock)
A+D in serie in bridge position
Whatever // sounding stuff in middle position

Or

A+B in serie in neck position (stock)
A+B + C+D in // in middle position (stock)
A+B + C+D in serie in bridge position.

Thanks in advance !

 

[jeremy]

Re: Odd wiring possible or not on a Epiphone Firebird?

with the stock wiring i dont think you can make that happen.

A+D in series would hum

 

[nalo1022]

Re: Odd wiring possible or not on a Epiphone Firebird?

Not with the stock 3 way switch.

Assuming each pickup is oriented the same, A+D wouldn't hum. This is assuming the proper coils are connected and or ground/disconnected. It would essentially be an on the fly hybrid pickup (North coil from neck and South coil from bridge)

 

[idsnowdog]

Re: Odd wiring possible or not on a Epiphone Firebird?

Stewmac has a 6-way toggle that can be used in place of a Gibson 3-way toggle. Otherwise you could use a PRS style 5-way rotary.

 

[jeremy]

Re: Odd wiring possible or not on a Epiphone Firebird?

Not with the stock 3 way switch.

Assuming each pickup is oriented the same, A+D wouldn't hum. This is assuming the proper coils are connected and or ground/disconnected. It would essentially be an on the fly hybrid pickup (North coil from neck and South coil from bridge)

lets pretend these are pafs just to make differentiating the coils easier.

A+D would be two screw coils and typically the same magnetic polarity. this may or may not be the case with this particular instrument with mini-hums but thats typically what i find

 

[Funkfingers]

Re: Odd wiring possible or not on a Epiphone Firebird?

Firebird-style humbuckers are kinda bright and less powerful than regular PAF style 'buckers. IMO, there is no great advantage in coil splitting them.

If you must try this, a twelve contact, three-way selector switch would do the job. e.g. The DiMarzio EP1111.

With the original toggle switch, you would have to use it to select between the B and C coils (or both) and feed the result in series into coil A.

 

[yauckt]

Re: Odd wiring possible or not on a Epiphone Firebird?

Interesting discussion

Why i ask this?

Due to personal distorsion taste, i found the bridge pickup on 99% of guitar i played too trebly. I enjoy anyway the energy and its accuracy.
I enjoy the bass of the neck pickup but it lacks of power and definition.

On a cheap bullet strat, i modded some stuffs and added serie switches. The neck + bridge serie combination totally blew me away : the bass i wanted, the power and the definition i enjoyed from the bridge PU.

As i don't use really often this Epi, i was thinking about something like this

I understand it may not be possible, but hey, why not

I was also thinking about using one coil of each PU, no matter the few sound difference it can create. Would you think that, simply inverting some PU wires would do such a job?