Ok, I Give Up On The Marshall Jubilee

[OlinMusic]

A couple of times last year I decided to take the plunge on a jubilee. I tried bargaining and lost out. I wanted to pay $900, not $1000.

I was $25 dollars short of $1025 bid on ebay for a Marshall Slash.

Funny thing is, I only like them for their woody feel. I was never huge on JCM800s, and I actually prefer the 70s NMVs, of which I have one. I sold my 6100 and decided I will try the Jubilee, though I felt the 6100 had AMAZING gain tones and CLEAN tones for days.

No one will sell their's now. It's become a huge LA fashion statement to own one (like I am not a fashionista...lol).

Well as of now prices are out of control. Someone on ebay has a start bid of $2199. I have talked to 2 well-known techs that don't even think they are that great an amp. They always say to me that my Plexi is the one to own.

I think I am giving up. I cannot fathom ever paying more than $1200 for these amps.

 

[britishgeetah]

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I want a Fender Twin Reverb now.

 

[Lewguitar]

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They got hot when Slash started playing them. Before that they were not thought of as being all that special...just a good amp that didn't catch on and that Marshall didn't make anymore.

Solid state distortion generator in a tube amp if I remember right.

They look cool and they're nice amps...but they're current popularity is kind of a fad thing.

Lew

 

[kevlar3000]

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Laney AOR, later version, will do anything the Jub will do. Still a bargain at around 300.00.

 

[TimmyPage]

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Solid state distortion generator in a tube amp if I remember right.

Lew

That explains why most of the people I hear with them have gooderer cleans than normal Marshalls. Gooderer is a word because I said so. They concentrated on the cleans alot, and then stuck a good (bad) old transistor in it for most of the distortion, rather than devoting too much tube to distortion.

Im sure that's not how it works in real life. But it's how it works out in my head.

 

[Gearjoneser]

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Anyone who says a plexi is better is not realizing that the two amps are on polar opposite ends of the Marshall spectrum, for what their purpose is.

I recently pulled the Jubilee 2550 head out and put it on my Bogner 4-12, and have been having a blast playing it. It's truly the best highgain amp Marshall ever made, and it's one of the few that can sound good at lower volume.
Even though Slash popularized it, there's still plenty of tones in it that I find better than Slash's tone.....maybe because I like my pickup choice more.
If you've ever heard a bad Jubilee, it's likely that it was being played out of G75T's, or the tubes were worn out. The tone of my 50W 2550 out of Vintage 30's with JJ E-34L's and Tungsol pre's is excellent, and I can get vintage tones, heavy chunk, and singing liquid sustain out of it.

 

[joelap]

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A lot of people who buy Jubilees are sadly disappointed. Someone on the internet built a Jubilee clone and flat-out disliked it. I once wanted a Jubilee because I love Slash's tone on Appetite for Destruction... come to find out thats not a jubilee but a modded plexi. The Use your Illusion albums? Jubilee and JCM800 with 6550 power tubes mixed. Use Your Illusion tone SUCKS for the record.

Olin, you've got a great vintage Marshall: What about complimenting that with a JTM45 replica or a modded marshall plexi clone? You seem to always fall back on that NMV of yours... why not run with it and get something similar, but voiced a little different? Maybe you're better off doing that than trying to search into more modern Marshalls?

 

[Lake Placid Blues]

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I think that the Jubilee is one of the better Marshalls. Designwise, it is pretty much like a good JCM800 2204/2203 with a few interesting features for a MV Marshall. It has the high gain mode that sounds sehr gut despite, or maybe because, it uses LED's instead of a extra 12AX7. If your not going to use an extra buzz tube, an LED is a proven alternative that isn't as buzzy. They may have done it on purpose to reduce the typical pre-amp tube buzz when high gain is applied. It's ironic that many people think nothing of sticking various solid state distortion and overdrive devices in front of their vintage all tube amps.

Another interesting feature is the very Hiwatt like tone stack that helps give more Hiwattesque clean voicings, and actually does give a good variety of usable and effective EQ.

They also have the ability to run the output tubes in triode for more tonal options, and this combined with the fact that Jubilees are usually not overbearingly loud, helps to push the EL34's at lower more usable volume levels. A little power tube push with EL34's is one aspec that helps makes a Marshall a good Marshall, IMO.

 

[WhoFan]

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A guy on another web site said he sold his Silver Jubilee 2x12 combo for $2500 USA.... i thought he was nuts and just bragging, but someone did buy it off EBAY for that.... it was in mint shape so i guess someone really wanted it...

Expensive toys

 

[That90'sGuy]

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I like the Silver Jubilees and if anyone thinks they sound poor, just listen to Joe Bonamassa, that guy knows tone

I *personally* can't see paying over $1200 for the head myself though, to each his own. For the price of what some of those are selling for, you'd be MUCH better off buying an XTC

 

[Gearjoneser]

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Here's why I like the Jubilee. It's just another flavor in the British Wall of Tonal Delight. :14:

 

[firebirdVII]

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You guys have to get over this whole british thing...

Every one knows that tweed is where it's at :banana:

 

[Gearjoneser]

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You guys have to get over this whole british thing...

Every one knows that tweed is where it's at :banana:

There used to be a Bassman LTD. in there, and the Matchless devoured it, so out it went! :13: The EL-84 Goldtone replaced it, and I also like it a lot more than the Bassman. I like 6L6 amps too, but nothing sends chills up my spine like the woody mids of EL-34's and EL-84's.

 

[firebirdVII]

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There used to be a Bassman LTD. in there, and the Matchless devoured it, so out it went! :13: The EL-84 Goldtone replaced it, and I also like it a lot more than the Bassman. I like 6L6 amps too, but nothing sends chills up my spine like the woody mids of EL-34's and EL-84's.

Come on, that's not a fair match. How about a cranked celtic or victoria or equivalent tweed?


Although I agree, my dad's badcat blackcat (pretty much a dc-30) sounds great with anything you can throw at it.

 

[firebirdVII]

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(grumble grumble) I was going to bed and you made me log in to write that :smack:

Oh well, the Cowgirl in the Sand got another run.

 

[34029324079]

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Well as of now prices are out of control. Someone on ebay has a start bid of $2199. I have talked to 2 well-known techs that don't even think they are that great an amp. They always say to me that my Plexi is the one to own.

I think I am giving up. I cannot fathom ever paying more than $1200 for these amps.

That is way too much $ - these days people will fork down for retro etc...always factor in the ebay anamoly - something that you could never fathom that will happen with that mofo

no need to chase the amp that costs 2x the price as of a year ago

 

[OlinMusic]

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JOELAP might be onto something, but really - the Plexi is sometimes a handful to haul around

CHRIS knows how I think, at THAT price I would be in the Bogner XTC, which I happen to love

GEARJONESER - YOU ARE NOT HELPING!

As far as the retro hounds - GOOD LORD. I had some big auditions last week and I went out of my way to take retro gear, and it worked. They see an old LP, and have some 800s in the room and they think ahhh this is rock n roll.

Sad. I remember when my PRS was all the rage, and it is still my most practical and best live instrument that handles "fear of the unknown" the best. Meaning, a lot of times you walk in and they never accurately told you the sound to go for, they may say hard rock, when it's more roots rock. The PRS handles it all, EXCEPT the image thing. I had a tour last year, and I came to one rehearsal with my LP, and everyone went AHHHH soudns so much better, bring that from now on. PUH LEEEZ. At THAT volume it ALL sounds the same... lol

Well, Marshalls are the same. All of us would be lying if we denied music had a LOT of fashion attached. The brits swingin' London hated strats for the ties to surf rock and pop. Les Pauls were discontinued, then EC plays 'em and they are all the rage. In the 90's you couldn't give away an 800 or a Jubilee. I had many chances to buy one for $400+. NOw, oh well, time to move on - people have lost their minds. Anyways, I'm a singer, right?

 

[BigBazz]

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Olin ive seen you go through so many good amps, bought and sold, some of them that you loved and you still sell them... will you ever settle on an amp?

You already have the best marshall (imo) with the SLP100, the amount of time you spend buying new amps you cant have much time to actually play them ha..

Anyway, good luck with your search.


Ryan

 

[OlinMusic]

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Well, you got me there...

but that IS why I sold them - so I can spend more time playing. I sold my 6100 and bought PRO TOOLs and upgraded the studio and have a bunch of new stuff in the works weeks from submission for anything from gigs to placement. I was gonna sell another amp and get a more modern Marshall like the Jubilee. I came very close to selling everything and getting a Fender Deluxe that my friend always loans me and an XTC and calling it a day. I thought I'd try a collectible Marshall and just have 2 Marshalls and an amp that can do cleans.

I enjoy this forum because I get tones of notes for production and live playing that have really helped me. In fact, some people on here have given me observations that prompted me to sell certain amps, ie my Rivera. I just don't mind going thru amps because thus far it has not lost me a dime. In fact, I think I might be ahead a few bucks.

You have been duly noted.

 

[BigBazz]

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Fair enough, wish i had the oportunity to own so many amps myself, problem is id get attached and wouldent be able to sell them .


Ive had my Peavey 5150 since november 2004 and i still love it, though there have been quite a few other amps that i have wanted and would have had to sell the peavey to pay for, amps such as.

Engl SE
Cornford MK50II
Splawn Pro Mod
Deizel Herbert
Rivera Knucklehead

Ive been really wanting a Marshall 1959SLP.. but im in a metal band and to be honest i dont think it would cope too well + i would have to sell my 5150 to fund it.. :no:

I have played a tonne of amps and never end up buying them, you seem to have gone through half the amps ever designed.:smokin: