OMG Bill Lawrence L550 L560

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I have this modern player tele thinline, sounded kinda crappy stock, mahogany body maple neck, tried a used Duncan vintage p90 in the bridge better but still MEH.....dull sounding so then I installed a dimarzio tone zone p90 and new 500k pots and tbx tone controls, series/split/parallel switch ballsy but now dark sounding but still kinda BLAH, So I had these late 70's Bill Lawrence L550 lead and L560 rythym pickups sitting around for years, one last chance before I dump this crappy sounding guitar only changed the mini switches to series/parallel, kept 500k volume and TBX tone controls. BINGO! WOW! OMG! super clarity, balls,, thick and sweet even my friends think its one of the best sounding guitars they have ever played as I do. the neck in parallel reminds me of old wide range humbuckers with a hint of strat quack, turn it down and its almost acoustic, the bridge pickup is fatter than my 76 les paul custom with WLH pups, I played them back to back and the clarity is incredible the bridge measures 13.8k and neck 11.3k, NO mud whatsoever and so touch sensitive, turn the volume down and crystal clear. I have 42 guitars with many different pickups but these blow me away. I have an 8H ^6H L90 set and a l500xl in my pickup drawer, I WILL be installing them even as ugly as they are (especially the L90) why I havent used them. If they sound anything like these pickups I'm sold. Is it just me or are Bill Lawrence pickups something special, Ive been very impressed with other pickups but these just blow me away. I've always associated Bill Lawrence pickups with the Dimebag or even de tuned metal sound but these are nothing short of incredable. Its almost like what I feel resonating in the guitar I hear in the tone, like hearing the wood vs the pickups.
 
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Bill Lawrence pickups are the best pickups on the market, bar none. Cheap, dynamic, silent, amazing tone, and loud. They check all of my good boxes without checking any of my bad ones.
 
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Another vote for Lawrence units here. I have been selling, installing, and playing Bill Lawrence stuff since the 70's. Their hallmark is clarity and articulation with clean power. The best part? AFFORDABLE. If all else fails - install a Lawrence.
 
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Bill Lawrence pickups are the best pickups on the market, bar none. Cheap, dynamic, silent, amazing tone, and loud. They check all of my good boxes without checking any of my bad ones.

no, one drawback.... they are so, so ugly.

Perhaps a second one: their bobbins are fragile. The fit of the blades in the L500 series is so tight, that after a decade of changing weather (warm humid summers, cold dry winters), the bobbins cracked on mine.
 
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The great thing about BL pickups is the really high inductamce. This makes them the perfect candidate for an experiment I am working on. I'm working on a way to replace a tone control with an active circuit that can make a trio of L200S's so that they can go from a Stratty tone to a full hot humbucker tone.
 
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Orpheo, no disrespect, but if a pickup sounds good, how can it be ugly? And visa versa.

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The one with the fragile bobbins, was it a Bill Lawrence USA one? I've never had a problem with Bill and Becky ones, or the old pre-split ones.
 
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The great thing about BL pickups is the really high inductamce. This makes them the perfect candidate for an experiment I am working on. I'm working on a way to replace a tone control with an active circuit that can make a trio of L200S's so that they can go from a Stratty tone to a full hot humbucker tone.

We wait with bated breath. :)
 
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Oh, never let 'em tell you looks don't get you anywhere- but I think Bill Lawrence pickups look cool. Very unitized/'sanitary,' unlike typical humbuckers with exposed tape & bobbins etc.
 
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The one with the fragile bobbins, was it a Bill Lawrence USA one? I've never had a problem with Bill and Becky ones, or the old pre-split ones.

Bill & Becky.

I know that tone is absolutely important. But if you've got all gold hardware on your LP Custom, the open bobbins just look off to my eyes. It is all subjective, ofcourse, but looks matter. Especially from my perspective, cause folks just won't buy an ugly guitar... :(
 
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I am the opposite - I LOVE the looks of the L500s. That is what got me to try them in the first place. But I only like the sound for neck pickups. In the bridge I have drifted back to more traditional humbuckers but I miss the sharp, clean looks of two cream coils in a chrome surround with polished blades and fitted mounting rings!

Which reminds me: where is the photo of your guitar?!? Post'em!
 
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My Vintage V6M24 with Lawrence 500's....
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Dude! did you buy that guitar body from Thesis Audio in Wichita? I bought a guitar just like that at Damm music and had him do a bunch of work on it. The guitar didn't workout for me the way I wanted it too and he asked me if I wanted to sell the guitar for 50 bucks lol. Was that you??!
 
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to OP, funny you say dimebag tho, cuz as stupid as it may sound the dimebucker is actually a good humbucker for country with twang
 
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Dude! did you buy that guitar body from Thesis Audio in Wichita? I bought a guitar just like that at Damm music and had him do a bunch of work on it. The guitar didn't workout for me the way I wanted it too and he asked me if I wanted to sell the guitar for 50 bucks lol. Was that you??!

That was me. It's a kick ass guitar, and I can't imagine why you weren't happy with it.
 
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That was me. It's a kick ass guitar, and I can't imagine why you weren't happy with it.

For some reason I could never get the string tension right. I took it to quite a few gigs with my cover band and it just didn't respond the way I wanted it too. I would adjust the action and truss rod and it never seemed to stay for me. Happy to see it didn't go to waste, The design was extremely eye catching.
 
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You should have kept bringing it back to Metz. He and I have been working as partners since the late 70's at Miller Music, and any setup work was done by me. As I remember, you switched out the sustain block on the whammy, put in DiMarzios's, etc. He and I both put a premium on making people happy, and we would gladly done so until you were pleased...

Anyway - you were disgusted with it, and I told him to offer you the money. I love the guitar - and the color. Which is weird, because I usually hate green guitars. Sounds fantastic with the Lawrence units, and the whammy stays in tune really well.
 
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