P90 review - Custom SP90-3b bridge, Antiquity neck

stratguy23

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I haven't seen many reviews for these P90s, so I figured I'd post one here.

SP90-3n Custom neck seems to be a fairly popular *bridge* choice here, but I don't see many folks going all in with the highest output SD P90 in the bridge.

Host guitar is a PRS SE Soapbar II - one of the best bang-for-the-buck production import guitars ever made. As many will attest, the stock P90s are very good (I've heard they're in fact OEM made by SD - can anyone confirm?); the stock bridge P90 in particular is a thing of beauty, with amazing snarl. I just wanted to try something even more aggressive.

It may seem odd to pair the lowest output SD P90 neck with the highest output SD P90 bridge, but those were the two P90s whose sound clips appealed the most to me. With both pickups, I thought I was getting some nice twangy tones. Boy, was I wrong! But pleasantly so! I guess my hands/rig are nothing at all like whatever SD used to make the clips.

SP90-3b may be the most aggressive pickup I've ever played. I'm including all sorts of fire breathers like EMG 81 and Invader in that assessment. It's not the most stereotypically aggressive pickup (i.e., marketed for metal), but in reality it is a mean sonofa*****. Scott Henderson said that single coils sound bigger than humbuckers, and for this pickup I'd have to agree. The combination of big ceramic magnets, hot wind, and P90 noise make this quite a weapon. It has a pronounced top end spike that reminds me a lot of the Pearly Gates bridge. The mids are surprisingly scooped, and the low end is tight but not especially chunky. I found myself wishing for a little more chunk, but if I had a true high gain amp like a 6505, I could get there with no problem.

Given this EQ signature, I bet this pickup would sound fantastic in downtuned metal applications.

This pickup is really, really loud. Sometimes I find myself wishing it weren't so full-on all the time, but most of the time I appreciate how in-your-face it is. You can do "Mississippi Queen" with this pickup, but because of the mid scoop, it will have a modern clarity to it. If you want to cut through a mix JB/498T/81-style, this pickup will do it.

Because of how ceramic it is (very), I find I have to attack it differently than other ceramic pickups. Someone commented here once on how ceramic pickups take on an alnico-like sag with hard enough pick attack, and I'd say that's true for pickups like the Custom and Distortion. However, SP90-3b is an armor-plated SOB, so a hard pick attack will just reflect back at you in an un-musical way. I find I have to soften my pick attack and get "inside" the pickup. Once I do, I can dig the stereotypical P90 "juice" out of it - and, man, is it sweet. I love this pickup. You learn how to wield it, and you feel like you have the biggest gun in the room.

Antiquity neck is another matter. Surprisingly, it matches up just fine volume-wise with the Custom bridge (just have to get your pickup heights right). Tonally, it's a bit of a mismatch, as it's very warm, and the Custom bridge is very bright (think 490R/498T type of mismatch). That said, its tone is so good that I don't mind the difference. It's exactly how you want an A2 neck P90 to be - thick, warm, juicy, musical. The experience felt a bit like the APS-1 Strat neck pickup (also A2), so if you like that pickup but want the P90 version, here you go.

I can see Antiquity P90 neck doing really well in a brighter guitar. Next place I want to try it is in a Strat with a maple board.

Looking at the SD EQ charts, I'm guessing a better tonal match for the Custom bridge might be the SP90-1 Vintage. And a better bridge match for the Antiquity neck might be the SP90-2 Hot. So I see myself giving those a go, but I'm pretty happy with what I have for now.
 
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Now, as you mentioned, this is an SP90-3 Neck…but I can only imagine the bridge would just that much more evil…

 
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1) The SP90-3N as bridge/Treble pickup "phenomenon", c'est moi! I freely "borrowed" the idea from the PRS McCarty Soapbar model.
2) I am 99% certain that the P-90 pickups in PRS SE guitars are supplied by G&B Pickups of Korea. (Yamaha also use them.)
3) Exceedingly hot P-90 style pickups can be a mixed blessing. <Nod to blueman.> They suit some guitars and not others.

I have had the good fortune to play this handmade SG. It is fitted with Bare Knuckle Pickups Pig-90 neck/Rhythm and bridge/Treble position pickups. Through overdriven valve amplification, it kicks major league gluteus maximus. Roll back the volume controls and it cleans up superbly.
 
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Haha, yes, Aceman, the SP90-3b is like that video, but filmed horizontally, because it's even bigger :D

Funkfingers, thanks for the OEM info. That SG looks awesome, like an LP trying to disguise itself as an SG.

The BK Warpig is indeed the next stop on the road to ever-increasing P90 output levels. Did you play the ceramic or alnico version? And what did it feel like to you, bassy/cutting/etc.?
 
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Its the same procedure as with the Ant buckers. Great look, great winding, great hardware, but the mags are disputable. i own a pair of vintage P90s (neck from 53 or earlier, bridge from 54 to 56). Both have A3 mags, on the older pickup one larger and rough, on the other grinded roughly to stahdard size (not like the modern polished ones). Both sound woody and drier, but can raised as close to the strings as possible, because of their lower string pull. So my first recommandation for the neck would be: yank out the stock mags and try the uber vintage A3s. They are due to the restriction of WW2 made without cobalt and are a great combo with low wound pickups.
 
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That SG looks awesome.

I have only witnessed three examples of the luthier's work. That SG, a neck replacement on a Gibson LP and a bespoke LP Junior inspired guitar, based on the original neck from the afore-mentioned repaired LP. The guy has been on a bit of a sabbatical but, I am assured, is about to re-open for business.

The BK Warpig is indeed the next stop on the road to ever-increasing P90 output levels. Did you play the ceramic or alnico version? And what did it feel like to you, bassy/cutting/etc.?

The BKP Pig-90 set was what I tried in the Coley SG. Ceramic magnets are not offered although, obviously, it would be no hardship to swap some in. I think that you are confusing the Pig-90 with the Warping humbucker. Two entirely different formats but both high output.

Through a MESA/Boogie Mark3 Simul-Class bubinga/basketweave combo, the Coley SG had bags of power when called for and cleaned up perfectly. I cannot think of many modern Gibson SGs of which this could be said. The guitar was good for Rock, Blues, Metal or, under my hands, mid Seventies Zappa impersonations.
 
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3) Exceedingly hot P-90 style pickups can be a mixed blessing. <Nod to blueman.> They suit some guitars and not others.


I'm with Hamerfan on this. I've got an assortment of SP90-3's and SP90-2's, and have taken out all of the large and regular sized ceramics and put in alnicos. Makes a lot more sense for what I'm doing. Everyone I know who likes P-90's is into vintage tones & plays blues and classic rock; they're not into ceramic magnets at all. From what I've seen, that's the lion's share of the P-90 market: retro guys. The players who are into ceramics are into more aggressive tones, and aren't normally P-90 users because of the noise factor. I get the impression that the SP90-2 and SP90-3 filled a very small niche, and was greeted with a collective yawn by everyone else. It's a solution to a problem few players have.
 
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The SP90-3 is RAWK incarnate.
 
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In-your-face is spot-on assessment. Glad you enjoy it. I'm into medium output pickup these days so I've had it replaced with SP90-2n in the bridge.
 
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