P90s

Jackylope

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Can someone please provide a little feedback as to the SD Hot 90s vs the Lollar soapbox P90s? Would be going in a LP.
 
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My favourite P90s are still Gibsons.

Lollars are bright, more articulate than Gibsons, but less raunchy. Good if you prefer a cleaner sound.

Not really liking the Duncan Hot P90s.
 
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I don't know how Hot P90-2b sounds like, but I really like the neck version in the bridge for punchier-yet-not-too-much sounds. It still allows you for more playing dynamically. It's definitely a raunchy pickup that sounds great in thick slab of mahogany. Some people like Custom P90-3n in the bridge too (PRS recipe btw). It's chunkier and accentuate your pick attack. Never have experience with Lollar. People said it's brighter and more articulate than Gibson's. Personally I prefer raw quality of P-90.
 
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Some people like Custom SP90-3n in the bridge too (PRS recipe btw).

I was that soldier. Both of my Gibson Les Paul models have this pickup in the bridge/Treble position.

Never have experience with Lollar.

I have a pair of mildly overwound Lollar P90s in a PRS SE single cutaway Soapbar model. Very enjoyable, thank you very much.
 
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I have some of each of SP90-1, SP90-2, an SP90-3. The average P-90 fan uses P-90's for their vintage tones when they play blues, jazz, and classic rock. P-90's can really shine in those genres. Using ceramic magnets goes in a different direction. I took all the ceramics out of those and gave them away to members here, replacing them with alnicos.
 
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Not going to lie, only draw was Mike Ness. I dig Social D, and the Gibsons are $$.

Social D is a huge influence of mine and I love p90s. Skip the lollars. They do not give you the sound you seek. Nice pickups but seemed to me more suited for jazz or something. (I have a few other lollars and this is just a problem with their p90s which are IMO the least favorite of their products I have tried.) Gibsons can be had fairly inexpensively.

My favorites are: 1950's era Gibson. I am lucky enough to have 3 old Gibson P90s. (One of them in a 1964 Melody maker D that Wickersham toured with in Social D. This is the guitar my username comes from. Wolfetone Meaner/mean set. Blindfold me and I would have a tough time telling this from a vintage p90. I oddly, have never tried SD's p90s thoroughly. But the vintage 50's Gibsons are pretty awesome, but typically, they cost more than a Zephyr. I got mine in old guitars which house them for less than the pickups alone go for these days.

I wouldn't say there is an average p90 fan as I lean towards heavy distortion, and a White light, white heat, white trash era Social D in my playing.

A few thoughts on p90s. A lot of times, the hotter the wind, the mellower the overarching sound with p90s. You need the attack and treble. Sometimes less is more aggressive.

Another cool pickup you might like if you are patient is the old Gibson p-13. 1940's through 1950's examples can be had for about $150 if you are patient. It is the forerunner to the p90.
 
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Putting a ceramic mag in a P-90 is like putting a 1000 HP V-10 engine in a Prius. Kinda defeats the whole purpose......(IMHO).
 
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Not what MY (or anyone else's) purpose is, but "the" purpose of the actual auto...and that ISN'T drag racing, it's fuel economy and lower emissions.

In this case, I'm talking about the original production purpose of the pup not any particular mod that a user wants to do to it. I absolutely support any mod anyone wants to do to any of their equipment to achieve the sound they want. But it's sacrilege for a manufacturer to put a ceramic mag in a P-90 and then call it a "P-90". That's like putting a lot more winds on a humbucker and a double thick ceramic mag in it to bring its "output" to 26k and then call it a "PAF", or even a "Hot PAF". Or adding another coil to a Strat pup and call it a "single coil pup" ("single coil-sized humbucker" is fine).
 
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