Pedal Board Power Supply

kjrocks

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I'm using a Godlyke now with about 7 pedals with no issues. 3 of these are MI Audio pedals that can use up to 25v. I'd like to get a power supply that is small as possible as I have managed to keep these all fairly compact on a small board. I'm leaning towards the Dunlop Brick because of its size and 3 18v outlets.
Any other ones I should check out that would give me 3 18+v outlets or is it just wishful thinking? The Gator G-Bus seem like an option but havent heard anyone mention that around here.
 
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I use the Dunlop Power Brick on the pedalboards I build and everybody seems to really like them. The DC supply/wall wart seems less rugged at first, but there is no sound degradation or reliability issues.

Personally, I have a VooDoo Lab supply but it's bulkier than the Dunlop.

I recommend the Dunlop to all of my customers. Here's a link (though the official site won't be up until mid-September).

Mic
Lucky 14 Pedalboards

http://www.myspace.com/lucky14pedalboards
 
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If you don't need or want a regulated, filtered, isolated power supply the DC Brick is fine but if you're going to go that route save some money and get a One Spot...the DC Brisk is little more than just a daisy chain anyway.

There are a few places that make a little box that you can use to go from 9 volts on a power supply to step it up to 18 for the pedal but IMnot sure it's safe to do that when running a One Spot or a DC Brick.

I know you can do it with the Voodoo Labs and Fulltone makes (or used to make) the little units Im talking about to go from 9 to 18 volts. I kwno the Voodoo labs is pricey and not as small as you;d like it to be but it is the last power supply you'll ever need unless you simply need one day to add another one!
 
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If you don't need or want a regulated, filtered, isolated power supply the DC Brick is fine but if you're going to go that route save some money and get a One Spot...the DC Brisk is little more than just a daisy chain anyway.

There are a few places that make a little box that you can use to go from 9 volts on a power supply to step it up to 18 for the pedal but IMnot sure it's safe to do that when running a One Spot or a DC Brick.

I know you can do it with the Voodoo Labs and Fulltone makes (or used to make) the little units Im talking about to go from 9 to 18 volts. I kwno the Voodoo labs is pricey and not as small as you;d like it to be but it is the last power supply you'll ever need unless you simply need one day to add another one!

I have a 1 Spot myself, and I see no need to get anything better. I have all my pedals chained up to it and the noise level is no better or worse than using batteries. Best value for money out there in power supplies.

As for higher voltages, Godlyke sells the Power Pump:

http://www.godlyke.com/shopping/pgm...scat=16&frompage=Online_Store&page_num=1&=SID

They say it works exclusively with their Power-all, but I can't really see a reason why it won't work with a 1 Spot. It's probably just a step-up transformer.

I am interested in a higher voltage for my BYOC OptiComp (it desperately needs more headroom), so maybe I'll e-mail Visual Sound and ask if there is any reason why the Power Pump or something like it would be bad for the 1 Spot. I'm thinking it would not work so well with a low current power supply like a Boss, but the 1 Spot puts out a ton of current.
 
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i use a voodoo labs PP2+ i like it but from what i understand from the manual it does not do 18 volts. i also have a BBE supa charger that i like just as much. it goes from 9-12 volts.
 
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Seems my question has been answered:

http://www.visualsound.net/faq.htm#6

I've never heard of the Power Pump , seems like it could be the answer. That info from VS makes it seem like thats not possible though :) The website says they are out of stock until further notice. Makes me wonder why:)
I like the PP2 best except to run 3 pedals at 18v I'd need and adapter and daisy chain. I suppose I could run them at 12v from any outlet. It would be nice if they had 18v as option on some outlets though.
 
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DC Brick is the answer!
It's filtered and regulated.
I don't use one because I jumped to G-Major ,but if I ever build another analog-pedalboard ,that would be with DC-Brick.
 
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I considered all the high dollar power supplies for quite some time and even started my own thread about them........In the end I bought a One-Spot to try and it did the trick. I'm running 4 (soon to be 5) pedals....nothing fancy, just Dunlop, Boss, Ibanez....ect.
 
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Wait a minute here.....

"Isolated" is the big difference here.

Aside from those cheapo Radio Shack power supplies, pretty much all of them are filtered and regulated - even the good ol' Boss wall wart.

To understand what those terms mean, I'd have to go into a big long lecture about DC power. If you're curious about the electronics of a power supply, here's a good link: http://www.kpsec.freeuk.com/powersup.htm . In brief, filtered (aka. smooth) regulated DC power is very clean and "flat" with no spikes or drop-offs. It refers to a steady, constant source of DC power.

The difference between most power supplies and something like the Pedal Power 2 (other than the questionably high price) is that each output on the PP2 is an isolated circuit. Most multi-out power supplies have one circuit that pumps out the DC power which is then daisy-chained to multiple outlets. Honestly, and no matter what anyone tells you, this is perfectly fine UNLESS you have pedals with problematic or unusual grounding circuits. This happens more often with certain brands of pedal than others (Line 6 and Electro Harmonix are the two biggest culprits I know of), and it is a fault in the design of the pedal, not the power supply. The result is that you get lots of noise because you have created a ground loop by putting these pedals on the same circuit as the rest.

I recommend starting with a non-isolated power supply, and of those the 1 Spot is clearly the best. If you need more than 9 volts for some of your effects, the DC Brick would be the one for you, though it doesn't put out as much current as the 1 Spot unfortunately.

If you find that you're getting a lot of noise when certain pedals are on the 1 Spot, you will probably need another power supply for those to break the ground loop. In that case, it would still be WAY cheaper to just buy two 1 Spots than to buy a PP2.

If you happen to be in the very unlikely scenario where you need four or five isolated power supplies because you have a wacky-ass bunch of pedals, and you need 12 or 18 volts for some of them, and you are OK with running a VERY NOISY AC line from the wall to your pedal board, thus adding noise back to your rig that you are trying to get rid of in the first place, then by all means start saving up some money to buy the PP2.

If you go out and buy a PP2 without trying the far cheaper alternatives first, hey, it's your money.
 
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Thanks Joe, I pretty sure about the Brick capabilities and ,like we discussed before, I'm just checking to see what else is out there.
I'm thinking ,right now for as much as I play, I shouldnt worry about it at all and just stay all 9v to keep it simple.
"Isolated" is the big difference here.

Thanks RD, I missed that, but I do understand the difference Thanks for the clarification.
Are impling the PP2 is noisy? :)
 
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Thanks RD, I missed that, but I do understand the difference Thanks for the clarification.
Are impling the PP2 is noisy? :)

It is not noisy in and of itself, and it is definitely not as noisy as having a ground loop. My big beef with the PP2, aside from the astronomically high price, is that it forces you to run an AC line to your pedal board. This is fine if you happen to be lucky enough to play a venue that has AC sockets at the front of the stage, but in every other case it means running an extension cord out to your board. AC power is VERY noisy, and if you run a signal line (such as the cord from your last pedal to your amp) in parallel with it, you'll hear it in the form of 60 Hz hum.

DC power doesn't have this problem. AC is noisy because it wobbles back and forth, but since DC is flat and constant (at least with a filtered, regulated power supply it is) you can safely run it in parallel with your signal cables and not cause any problems. The 1 spot has a 10 foot cable that is pure DC all the way. If 10 feet isn't long enough for you, it would be pretty cheap to make an extension cable for it, or you can get something like the Pedalsnake (http://www.pedalsnake.com/).

Sure, I'm nitpicking, but for what the PP2 costs I think it's only fair to expect a lot from it.
 
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